Supermassive Black Hole NASA/JPL-Caltech

Lurking in a distant supermassive black hole there exists a reservoir of water as big as 140 trillion oceans, the largest repository of water in the universe and 4,000 times more than exists in the Milky Way. Two teams of astronomers discovered this mass of water 12 billion light years away, where it manifests as vapor spread across hundreds of light years.

The reservoir was found spread around the gaseous region of a quasar, a luminous compact region at the center of a galaxy and fueled by a black hole. This discovery shows that water can be found throughout the universe, even early on. While that is not necessarily news to scientists, water has never been found this far away before. The light from the quasar (the APM 08279+5255 quasar in the constellation Lynx, to be exact) took 12 billion years to get to Earth, meaning that this mass of water existed when the universe was only 1.6 billion years old.

Beginning observations in 2008, one group used a tool called Z-Spec at Caltech Submillimeter Observatory in Hawaii and the other used the Plateau de Bure Interferometer in the French Alps. These instruments observe millimeter and submillimeter wavelengths which allow for the discovery of trace gases (or huge reservoirs of water vapor) in the early universe. The detection of several spectral signatures of water in the quasar gave researchers the information needed to determine the enormous size of the reservoir.

[Wired, NASA]

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Brings in some kind of strange life form, even bacteria or just about anything, swimming about in the great big blue of the oceans over the billions of years this ocean has existed.

"....At the ocean's deepest point, the water pressure is the equivalent of having about 50 jumbo jets piled on top of you. Yet even here life thrives, according to scientists who have pulled a plug of dirt from the seafloor.---The sample was taken from the Challenger Deep, which is nearly 7 miles (11 kilometers) deep. The soil was packed with a unique community of mostly soft-walled, singled-celled organisms that are thought to resemble some of the world's earliest life forms...." LIFE, ITS EVERYWHERE!

@ BubbaGump

Its not really an ocean, in fact its not liquid. I suppose the most analagous thing here on earth would be a cloud or even more precisely, a patch of fog (even though they're basically the same thing, I think fog has more water vapor in it). Except this is very very very very very thin, so thin that its not visible, at least in the immediate vicinity. You'd likely have to be standing "outside" of it, very far away to see it. Its also very frigid, somewhere around -63F (which is kinda "warm" for space). No life there.

BUT... If there is a star somewhere in the area (and there probably is) and that star hosts a planet in the goldilocks zone (which one might) then sufficient water may have fallen on that planet to allow life to spring up.

@lawsonrw, you are suggesting the possibility of life being elsewhere in the Universe (goldilocks zone)? But dare you comment on the theory of life from outer space had visited earth in the past, all hell will break loose on this website, readers minds will rebel and melt and vomiting will begin. They cannot concede nor conceive that early humans scribe, made art work on caves and religious scriptures of visitors from outer space, from a limited and primitive point of view. I think finding oceans of water in space is just wonderful; it’s an oasis for thirsty travelers in space, that just happen to have the knowledge of space travel, a meeting place maybe or a death trap, since is part of a black hole too. lol.

Would this be considered Fluidic Space?

@Bubbanuts...please take up masterbation, or is that the problem, i see now, nothing else to get your jollies

@BubbaGump: By no means an ocean in a literal sense, but the closest you can get in a cosmic environment (I think that's the point you're getting at by calling it an ocean; at least I hope so).

Definitely an oasis for cosmic travelers, or a source of conflict for desparate civilizations struggling to survive in the deep of space. This could be a highly sought out secret in which case this information could be dangerous (just use your imagination).

@drchuck1, you do understand when people resort to verbal or physical violence, it's because they have nothing intelligent to say and they have a deep desire to control a situation and are desperate. Always and forever you have the opportunity to ignore me and just WOW us with you intellectual ability. As science looks to the stars, so many are excited to see, but tell them they find life and they close their eyes. Tell them the cosmos is billions of years old and they are excited to know. But suggest life is very possible be wiser than ourselves and they feel intimidated. Tell them life is billions of years old and our culture could much older than we currently know and they get exited again. But tell them our society long ago somehow, some way had gotten help from an outside visitor and some of our religious teachings have this too and they run always with hands over ears. It’s just so odd how people are excited to know of life and yet as you tell them; they run away not wanting to know too. Unless life fits in their own imagination, with their rules, they simply do not wish to know.

As far as spaceborne life is concerned I'd imagine such lifeforms would probably be completely different from what we'd normally conceive (i.e. not carbon-based). Water being a good conductor of electricity I could see non-coporeal, energy based lifeforms thriving in a space of water vapor stretching across hundreds of lightyears.

@pheonix1012, there was a PoPSci artical not to far back of a desire to mix human DNA with jello. So in a way you could have you wish in seeing a " non-coporeal, energy based life forms thriving in a space of water vapor stretching across hundreds of light-years. ". What would happen say a giant meteor hit a planet with life and a piece broke off and continue to fly into space with bacteria on it, to finally land in this soup of water vapor, over billions of years of time?

As Tom Arnold would say "Boy, what did you eat!?"

Sure, only intelligent life in the whole of the universe began 6000 to 10,000 years ago and that it. DONE. There is nothing else, zip, nothing, nadda, nada. I wish you all happiness in your own little worlds. lol. I understand, the DO NOT DESTURB light is on. lol

@Bubbagump

"there was a PoPSci article not to far back of a desire to mix human DNA with jello."

I am not bashing you but I think you missed the whole point of that article. They were trying to make jello more disgusting than it already is by having genetically modified bacteria produce the key protein instead of harvesting it from cows and ponies. Better QA for the producers.

I firmly believe somewhere in the cosmos exists life at all stages of development. Some are just discovering fire. Others are in the pre-industrial age. Some are exactly where we are. And some may be eons ahead of us. I believe that we barely understand the universe and that travelling between the stars is not only possible but within the near future for humanity. And if a civilization is older, its very possible they travelled to our star. But do I believe that life somehow formed or survived in a thin cloud of water vapor that's below 0 F? No. If anything, as mentioned by earlier posters, this cloud could serve as a galactic watering hole for wayward ships. But I'd also look in this area for intelligent life. After all, it took 4 Billion years for intelligent life to form on Earth. "Goldilocks planets" have had 3x as long to do the same thing. If they're still alive, they might be more advanced than we could imagine.

What a fascinating and amazing thing to find: that much water, that far away, and from that long ago. Truly amazing in every sense of the word. I am flabbergasted to know that such an immense amount of water was around so long ago. I'm also truly impressed that we have the technology to image and identify such incredible things.
Now...
We have access to the wonders of the universe and all we can think to do is bicker about them?

im with bubbagump on this one. extremophiles show us its possible for life to exist here in the extreme environments here so why not in a massive vapor cloud in space? likely? not by our standard but possible? yes. and i also this its very likely other life forms visited earth in the past. only a complete nutjob would say its not possible. probable the same nutjob that says the universe was created 6000 years ago for gods jollies.

I think it’s so cool they found such an extreme quantity of water vapor, mist-whatever near a black hole. It’s curious to why the water vapor has not yet been pulled down into the depths of the black hole. Could it be in some way, similar to our California tar pits, catching flying asteroids through space, bacteria’s, and algae, lost space ships or many other things we have not thought of? Why doesn't the water vapor get pulled into the black hole? How did so much water get come together in the first place; why come together at all? It is a wonder the quantity of water too; just amazing all of it! Very COOL!

That's a hell of a big swimming pool. Too bad you have to be squished into a singularity to use it. Oh well. LOL

Now just inmagine the black hole has been filling up with water since the beginning of time. What we are seeing is the pool of water that could not go in. FOOD FOR THOUGHT!

Perhaps that casts some light on this verse found in the Bible. Genesis 1:6 Then God said, "Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." 7 Thus God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament; and it was so.

BubbaGump:

"Sure, only intelligent life in the whole of the universe began 6000 to 10,000 years ago and that it. DONE. There is nothing else, zip, nothing, nadda, nada. I wish you all happiness in your own little worlds. lol. I understand, the DO NOT DESTURB light is on. lol"

Why of course, it just all happened to happen.

@ClayManBob, just to let you know at that moment when I was writting; I was being a little sarcastic to some of the previous foke.... just to let you know.

@ClayManBob, here are a few thoughts of mine. Inmagine if you will, you have a alien race that can travel the universe via worm holes. One 4 star general with great wisdom and power is trapped on earth for some unexplained reason. He has his knowledge, some small ships and asscociated advance electronic gadgets. Like any sailor trapped on a island, he uses his knowledge to make himself a GOD, has sex with the natives and does a lot of redecorating of the society around him. Now this 4 star alien general over time is bored, powerful, un-attach from the ONE GOD and become corrupt. He and all is men make themselves GODS on earth, breed with the humans and toy with Genetics and DNA splicing. The earth having a low level of back ground electromagnectic noise, combine with the pyaminds built to conduct electrical current and also create a microwave beam towards the stars for several hundred years is calling home world in the stars. God does return to earth and see the mess the 4 star corrupt general has done and destroys all the mutants, giants and strange human amimals. He leaves the 4 star general hear on earth without his gadgets and power, but only his knowledge. Why, so has humanity experiences the DEVIL ( 4 star curropt general), they see his power and know GOD also exist too. Eventualy GOD will return and save humity from the destruction of our pollutions and genetic tinkering we are currently doing ( create a virus that will destroy humanity .) Humanity has grown super intelligent and we are on the verge of destroying ourselves. God will save us at the end; THE END. I believe in science. I believe in GOD. I believe in looking around the whole earth and making up my own mind about things.

@BubbaGump, you sounded a bit condescending to others (in my humble opinion or course), rather than just sarcastic, especially with the lol's.

Of course you are entitled to your own beliefs, but your imagination is pretty out there and would make a mundane rehashed science fiction story. Do ALL sailors really make themselves gods in that situation?

I also believe in science, and I also believe in God, but I don't tend to come up with explanations that suit my need for explaining how things are. Conforming God to meet one's beliefs can be a slippery slope that I choose to avoid.

The current bible is base upon 4 aposels. What happen to the other scriptors. What happen to Enoch, ... all of his scriptors. We Christians believe GOD loves everyone, then we put a close ear and blind eye to other cultures and other religions around the world. Well, each day God is loving them too and speaking into their hearts. The creation of the world according to the Sumerian is the same as Genious, but do you read much about this too? Why did the Christian church stop speaking all of the scriptors of Enoch. We do we not read the scriptors of Judis. You know our dear Lord and Jesus did everything correct, do you really think Jesus was fooled by Judas and betrade? If you read the scriptor of Judas, Judas did exactly as he was told and was also told by Judas he would be despised all history. Jesus chose Judas and loved him. Judas loved Jesus and obeyed him too. Yes, I believe God has a plan and lives in the stars. Did you know there is 3 heavens in the bible. 1 is the land we walk on. 2 is the air we see with the clouds. 3 is the stars above and beyond. Egyptian pharaoh Akhenaten is so simuliar in comparison as Moses. He has a odd looking body, cone head. In all the art work of himself, he displayed himself honestly. All the other pharaohs had broad shoulders, narrow waist, and strong bodies. All the other pharaohs believed in many gods. Akhenaten, was humble enough to display himself honestly and he believed in only one GOD, the SUN God. Also he also left Egypt and with a group of Egyptians. Being a pharaoh, he would have the extra intelligence of how to survive in the desert. The look of Egyptian people and the Jewish people is thought to be different in characteristics. So as history wrote about Moses, they said he was an adopted Egyptian Pharaoh, making him different looking than the normal Egyptians. There are those scientists, engineers, and archeologist, religious leaders that believe we were visited by outer space aliens and they lived among us and did some DNA manipulation in the past. I suggest to you, Akhenaten Egyptian Pharaoh was a human alien hybrid and also Moses, one and the same. On the Egyptian art on the walls, displays many GODs with animal heads and human bodies, the phynix with a human head and a lion body. The Samarians wrote of great giants. Human cone head people have been written about all over the world. Read the scripter\historic words of Enoch. There are south and north american indians that speak about strange looking aliens that have come from the stars. Its in our human culuture and its all around the world. To suggest and say GOD is alien is not a insult of any kind to GOD. It simply means he is not of our world and is the all powerful. Off the coastal shores of countries around the world are giangantic monilithic structure in the waters. A most recent one was found 1/2 mile down under the ocean of cuba. Who built it? How did they build it? Back in the ice age when the land was convered with 2 miles of ice, the oceans were a lot more shallow. So some great culture built all this great monilithic stone structures and are gone now. Every here of the Great Flood from Noah? Yes, science and religion to mix and culuture and the worlds religions and art and archelogy. I am not suggesting hate of blassimy. I am just suggesting learning and opening you eyes to what is all around the world!

"Universe's Largest Water Reservoir Discovered in Black Hole"

Ms. Beck,

For gods sake. You are a Science Publication. At least get the title of the article correct.

When have we ever been able to see "inside" a black hole? If we had that would be more important discovery than what was covered within this article.

BubbaGump,

God is an Alien:

God is not only not of this world he existed prior to the creation of the Universe. Now that's An Alien!

God is not an Alien:

God Created the Universe and all that it contains. The Universe is of God and therefore cannot be Alien.

@ malonetyler very nice!

Also when this artivle says the amount of water is 140 trillion times the size of an ocean, does it mean an alantic sized ocean or an indian sized ocean? Also does any of this water reach earth?

Well Here is what I think. Yes there is a good chance that an alien civilization has already beat us to the punch when it comes to technology. Maybe they're watching us right now, maybe they're aware of planet Earth. I hope not I really hope that we are the very first in the Universe to achieve technology anyway, Ray Kurzweil out.

you bet, sure

@ ray You think there is a good chance? So far there are very few planets/satellites capable of sustaining life and those that might be able to show no signs of life. Out of all our space probes and telescopes and what not, none of them have spotted intelligent life anywhere. And if life did exist elsewhere, who's to say were not more advanced?

well we so intelligent today that there is no scope for god to exist... religion has a role to play religions role should be to teach humanity to humans and not spread hatred among us and not create some sort of rift between humans with making their private and science too should be must be very true in their teachings all the history says that western people hav modified the theories in order to prove superior for them selves.. i mean all should be true to their roles they play

I have seen odd lights as a child dancing with the stars, while camping for many years. They made angle turns that would be impossible for a plane. In my childhood, I and my whole family saw them over 100 different times. They made no sound. Watching them was harmless. The people from the state of Arizona have seen lights up close, gently, quietly, no sound. 10% of the people of Arizona have seen them. They showed themselves in a gentle harmless way, softly. There is something more than ourselves that exist in the environment and they use a stealth technology of being invisible or various degrees of translucent. Ignore my opinions if they annoy or disturb you. I am just a simple person, just with simple opinions and observations, nothing more. God Bless and Have a Good Day. Finding that colossal blue mist water near that black hole is just amazing!

Of course, the reported finding is good for the astrophysicists concerned, they are likely to get some fame and grants. But, as far as society is concerned the discovery is of no use for the next millions of years as we can not get that water here. On the other hand we - all physics educators of the world - should focus on the question WHY NASA is unable to get leaders for proposed projects. This news appeared in the famous British weekly, NATURE on 27th June. That means we have to focus attention on problems in physics education, which can not be solved only by funding. Contact me for more information on dvsathe[at]gmail.com

@malonetyler, as God being the standard, then yes we human are the aliens to his plan. But as we humans adopt his plan and become a different society towards Gods plan and are not ommon to other societies on this earth, then this new group is aliens on earth. It all just a matter of perspective.

Why do some people seem to think it necessary to spew a million gibberish comments

No one cares

As far as the article goes im sure all the water is gone now seeing as it was perched inside a black hole

@bjorn, Its all done for your own entertainment there "bjorn".lol

there are millions of planets that hold life in the universe...and thats a low estimate. if theres a 1 in a billion shot there are still trillions of possibilities. just because we cant see them and cant find them doesn't mean they're not there. it means we dont have the tech. thinking we are alone in the universe as intelligent life is the most outlandish bull ive heard.

if only 1 star in each galaxy has intelligent life, there are billions out there.

"Universe's Largest Water Reservoir"
"The Universe's Ten Most Epic Projects"

Someone thinks the human race is far more traveled than they really are. They have barely left the cradle and now they are talking like they are seasoned inter-galactic travelers.

@bjorn

"Why do some people seem to think it necessary to spew a million gibberish comments"

Answer:
The empty can makes the most noise

" He and all is men make themselves GODS on earth, breed with the humans and toy with Genetics and DNA splicing."
Ya got some major problems here:

1. They wouldn't be able to breed with humans; it's like trying to breed a cat with a dog. Not near the same DNA!

2. No genetic engineering has happened when these "ancient aliens" were supposedly around (i.e. Sumatra) because there would be evidence of it. We'd look back and see the precursor of these "new" humans in the fossil record but as far as I know we're still the same as we were in Sumatra.

3. The damning evidence of hieroglyphs that show a civilization's gods( alleged aliens). Wouldn't they include accounts of the gods breeding with commoners and being studied cause that sounds pretty important to me, but they dont.

So let's just go back to worrying about the debt crisis k?

looks like rainbow dash made the biggest Sonic Rainboom ever then Equestria and all of Ponyville exploded from the sheer epicness? water=blue rainbow dash = blue i believe i am smart enuf to put 2 and 2 tugether so that would be my educated guess

Hooray, water issue solved. Hm, how to get there lol

One day in a land far away we will no longer believe in Mythologies and the world will once again be perfect.

I wish you religious zealots would please stop putting a religious twist to every bit of science that is presented.

Carry on believing your Mythologies if you wish but please let the scientist who are actually discovering the real world and enjoying every thing that the universe has to offer without religious BS, carry on their "magic".

Go out and get a good education, if you dare.

Thanks.

Amazing how 99,9% doesnt understand that this is changing our knowledge and understanding of black holes the same way humanity did find out that the earth is a globe. Some even respond with bible speeeches of the totally dump, this is just too much.
Well even before they can address black holes to Satan its over already as we find now black holes involved in creation and life spending.

Science exist!
Religions exist!
Multi culture and Multi religions do exist!
Good and Evil Exist!
Aliens exist and good and evil ones to bute!
And yes, God exist too.

Now eat those apples!

The Universe is a big place and does have room to hold it all.

Always looking for a realization of their sci-fi dreams. I wont be surprised if this is disproven soon.

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@bubbagump
You clearly have no idea what your talking about, you try to sound intellectual by babbling on about nothing.
As for religion, its sciences worst enemy. Just because some blokes wrote stories a few thousand years ago doesnt make it true. As for aliens, as far as we know they dont exist. Im not saying they dont, just we dont know yet. But what has any of this got to do with water vapour being found around a quasar, nothing!

@Liquid, I see you created a login 9 hours old. So your only purpose was just to show up and be an antagonist. Well, now I know what you all about.

I look forward to all you wonderful future opptomistic clever intelligent interesting comment for PoPSci. I am sure you will be aw inspiring! Thanks for posting.

@bubba
Who are you really? Besides a mogwai looking thing with pipe-cleaner antenna that enjoys posting comments with crazy grammar that just angers everyone? Not attacking you, just wondering.

@wheath, " I am "

@wheath, I wish you good weather, long life, good happiness and you see and find the sweet beautiful face of our dear LORD. GOD BLESS!

I firmly believe somewhere in the cosmos exists life at all stages of development. Some are just discovering fire. Others are in the pre-industrial age. Some are exactly where we are. And several may be eons ahead folks. I believe we barely understand the universe and that travelling between the celebs is not only possible but within the near future for humanity. And if a civilization is older, its very possible they travelled to our star. Hope they don't catch bronchitis symptoms

No my reason wasnt to just show up, id only just discovered the site and wished to join as i find the majority of the things it contains interesting. As an athiest who believes in science and proof i find it very annoying when poeple almost preach religion especially on scientific sites. Everybody has their own right to their own believes and thats fine with me, i just dont want to feel like im reading the bible everytime i want to read an interesting post. If it was proved that this "god" existed id be the 1st to admit i was wrong.

Hey bubba, *passing the joint*
Smoke another one you ego twisted, lonley, sad, self indulged freak. Oh, did I forget probably a 13 yr old virgin too.(please dont try to disprove me..I dont care)
Your obsessive impulse to interupt everyones train of thought is not new. So many times have I read blogs with
small men and women who, at a constant rate, need human interaction worse than oxygen. Now I know why u have a picture of a dog for ur face. Is it the only thing that talks to you in mundane life?(sad) Yes my handle makes fun of u, and yes i just made my account.(maybe I'm a antagonist:)
Everyones insights are very interesting, I quite enjoyed them even with you polluting the net. Your IQ is not based on how fast you can find the answers on google or what ur mom says. Why don't you go to a Ukraine magazine site were no one gives a crap about your rantings. Or better yet,(*hands him a 44 magnum*) do us all a favor. And if u need help pulling the trigger, ask ur dog.

Hey eveyone there is water orbiting a blackhole..cool :)



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