A “violent encounter with Jupiter” may have hurled a fifth gas giant out of our solar system billions of years ago. A simulation done by the Southwest Research Institute in Boulder, Colorado suggests that our solar system may have included another gaseous giant, placed between Saturn and Uranus. The computer models may prove how the planets of our solar system settled in their current position, a long-standing source of mystery to astronomers.
The formation of Uranus and Neptune has puzzled astronomers for years. The assumed disc of gas and dust that formed the two gas giants would have been too thin at their current locations to form the icy planets. It’s more likely that the two, and Jupiter and Saturn, were closer together in the earlier days of our solar system, and spread out once the disc was depleted. The “five great gravitational bullies of the solar system, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune” jockeyed for position after being formed. According to past simulations, which only included the current planets, either Uranus or Neptune at least should have been jettisoned into deep space. “People didn’t know how to resolve that,” says David Nesvorny of the Southwest Research Institute. He offers a new explanation: “A sacrificial ice giant between Saturn and Uranus.”
The existence of this new planet, who some of Nesvorny’s colleagues are calling Hades, is supported by the results of 6,000 computer simulations. Previous simulations only included Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune in the outer solar system. But these new simulations also included models with five planets, testing different starting position scenarios. In 90 percent of the four planet models, the simulations ended with only three planets left in the outer system. But in half of the five planet simulations, four planets in very similar positions to our current solar system resulted. The results with the most similar positions started with a fifth planet between Saturn and Uranus, and ended with this planet cast out after an encounter with Jupiter.
These results also suggest that Jupiter “jumped” to its current position from one that was closer to the sun. This occurred in the simulations that allowed the four inner planets, including Earth, to survive the clash of the gaseous titans. “This jumping Jupiter theory is very difficult to achieve for the four-planet system. But it’s a natural consequence of the five-planet system,” says Nesvorny.
The planetary battle could also explain the heavily cratered surface of the moon caused during the “late heavy bombardment.” The Kuiper Belt and Oord Cloud were not fully formed, and the disturbance could have flung debris from these regions of proto-planets beyond Neptune towards the inner system.
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I like how pluto is no longer a planet and yet its in the main picture with the rest of the plant's,...
Something similar to this hypothesis is something I have been preaching about for the last 12 years on the old blogs at space.com. One of the preaching sessions was about Titan, a moon of Saturn, Titan may have been a gas giant at one time, if so may have been a captured moon of Saturn. Titan lost its tug of war with Saturn after its capture and most of its atmosphere was swallowed up by Saturn.
In the inner solar system the solar wind from our sun destroyed the atmosphere of the inner gas giants creating rocky worlds leaving us with what we have today. In the case of earth it happened at a much slower rate after the big collision earlier with a Mars size planet causing it to lose its gas giant status early due to the impact that created our moon because of earths strong magnetic field it held onto some of its gasses, and only after most of the more toxic gasses left the atmosphere did we finally get life on its surface over 700 million years ago.....
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"I like how pluto is no longer a planet and yet its in the main picture with the rest of the plant's,..."
you are just coming off as an $$$. I see the sun! thats not a planet. I see astriods. those are not planets. I see a comet. That is not a planet. I see a moon that is not a planet. Pluto is a dwarf planet. They think there could be about 2000 dwarf planets in the belt. I only see about 100 dwarf planets represented in the belt! In fact I see far MORE objects represented that are not planets than I do planets.
pluto is most definitely a Kuiper belt object, dwarf planet my bunghole, and while I do agree that nothing is labeled in the picture, the picture infers that pluto is planet because it has a circular ring going through its core along with all the other planets. This is because there is nothing to distinguish it from other astronomical objects in the picture such as the sun, astriods (i know this is spelled wrong just like yours but i want to write in a language i know you will understand), and comets. As such, one can only conclude that Jerod789 is correct in his frustrations and inaka_rob needs another place to give astronomy lessons.
The “five gravitational bullies of the solar system, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune” jockeyed
Thats four youve been spanked by The count count blah~~!
They should have named the planet something that plays well with Uranus.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyche_(hypothetical_planet)
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I get how this picture is informative and yes does leave out information too. They show the earth with a moon and yet the other planets are shown with no moons. I suppose much is left out of this picture, as in labels. So to suppose what is a planet or is not is not said in the picture.
The article is talking about the possibility of mystery past ice gas giant planet that exist in the past and was gobbled up in a collision with a violent encounter with Jupiter.
Interesting side note:
Earth has 1 moon
Mars has 2 moons
Jupiter has 18 plus moons
Saturn has 18 plus moons
Uranus has 15 moons
Neptune has 2 moons
Pluto has 4 moons.
The earths moon is believe to originated from the outer crust material of earth from some past collision.
I wonder if the above stated moons could in fact have been planets in the past but simply were caught in this past jostling and making of collisions of the past. So depending upon what point of time you are referring too, we could have had many planets in the past, collisions could arrived into our solar system in the future and we could have more or less planets in the future.
Its all just billiards really and what point of time you are refering too.
planet X anyone?
IT is planet x. the annuaki are coming.
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Oh planet X is real and it was cropped from this picture to avoid feedback, lol.
As funny as it seems, this data plays right into the Planet X theory. Or Earth’s sister sun (Binary system). A binary dwarf star on a 26 – 36 thousand year orbit around the sun (or rather they orbit each other.
JediMindset, since you brought it up:
The Anunnaki (also transcribed as: Anunna, Anunnaku, Ananaki and other variations) are a group of Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian deities.
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Annunaki -
Found In Genesis 25:32
Also known as Jedi, or Nephilim
Who were the Annunaki? They were the Watchers, Watchmen assigned to earth to watch over Yahweh's Creation in the Garden of Eden and Earth. They were created by God as perfect Angels. These Watchers rebelled against God and their assignment and a mutiny followed as they abandoned their mission to oversee humans and began to defile the women of the earth by having offspring with them. This led to a giant defect in the DNA of the offspring and an eventual almost complete contamination of the human DNA. By the time Yahweh destroyed the world with a flood because of this contamination, only one family on earth was left with pure human DNA. But even after the flood, the Watchers kept revolting and even more were punished and cast out of heaven losing their first estate and habitation, as they continued to defile women and human DNA (Genesis 6:4) This hybridization and corruption of the human DNA is still very much a part of our world although the giant defect has been corrected and most hybridization goes undetected.
And if you change the word GOD and Watchers to an outer space aliens and hybrid human aliens, it can really change your perspective of things further.
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Sumerian, Babylonian, Egyptians and other cultures believe these space aliens originate from the area of space called Orion constellation.
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Ok, I stirred up enough dust... see ya.
One further addition: If you local town, city was over whelmed with a flood and only a few survived, you may be incline to write in your history the world was flooded. It could have been a personal reference to a disaster and not an actual world fact as the planet being flooded. Simple people wrote of things the best they could with the vocabulary and knowledge then knew at the time.
@mp i think our anciestors were smarter than that and could communicate quite well with eachother (they hard to).
now our ability to properly translate and try to understand them is the real problem.
usernaem,
It is often argue by the science community there was no flood. I am just simply making the case that there could have been a flood and to the individual who wrote down biblically, they believe there was a flood from their point of view. I believe people are intelligent presently and in the past. We all do the best we can in making decisions with the information we know.
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yes there was a flood. many other cultures talk about the same flood in the same time period. so yes it true. even the bible talks about it. it all connects.
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