And he's answering your questions on Reddit

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Reddit’s IAmA forums can be a regular source of BS, so when we came across this “Ask Me Anything” session in which a 24-year-old electrical engineer (and grad student) shares his experiences with having magnets implanted in his fingertips, we were skeptical. Then we read it, and it was kind of awesome. Moreover, it appears there are lots of people out there interested in the magnetic implant subculture--which apparently is a real thing.

Reddit user “elgevillawngnome” explains in this IAmA how he had two Parylene-coated neodymium magnets implanted in the thumb and ring finger of his left hand (he chose those two fingers because they are far enough apart from each other and don’t get in the way of his day-to-day activities). These magnets, surgically lodged in a layer of fat just below the skin, impart a kind of “sixth sense”--a sensation that allows him to feel magnetic fields in objects.

The magnets aren’t super strong--only something very small like a staple will stick to his fingers, and they don’t wipe his hard drive when he uses his laptop or demagnetize his credit cards when he handles them. “The sensation I get near a magnetic field changes from field to field,” he says in the IAmA. “AC fields cause the magnets to shake in my fingertips. This causes a similar sensation to bumping your elbow and your fingers going numb. Though, this changes in fields of different frequency or intensity. DC and permanent magnet fields just feel like it's tugging on my finger.”

Below we’ve lifted a few more of our favorite questions and answers from this decidedly different Q+A session. You can read the thread in its entirety on Reddit.

Why?

I did it because it gives me a sixth sense. I can feel fields that I wouldn't know were present before. My main reasoning is due to my profession. I'm going to be able to get a substantial amount of mileage out of the ability to "see" a magnetic field when I'm troubleshooting a wonky power supply or a motor that isn't correctly functioning.

When you pick up metal objects what happens?

I can't pick up ferrous objects much bigger than a staple. Other magnets on the other hand... man that's fun. Other rare-earth magnets basically just feel like they are super glued to your fingertips. It's dangerous to keep them on for long, because they pinch the blood flow to the area and can cause the skin to die, leading to the rejection of your beloved implant.

Do you have any problems going through airport security?

I haven't had any troubles in my travels for the last few months. I'm quite concerned about an MRI though.

Won't they reject?

There is always the possibility. My implants are coated in Parylene, which is biologically neutral and rust proof. It's the same stuff that they coat pacemakers with. I really hope it doesn't happen, but there is a possibility of rejection with any body modification.

Do you now feel like Magneto from X-Men?

I am constantly being called magneto, and that is f**king boss. Unfortunately, they aren't strong enough to be able to crush cars or pull the iron content of your blood out.

On a scale of 1 to sex in space, how f**king awesome is it having magnets in your fingers?

I'd place it at a solid 15' Tesla coil hooked up to an electric guitar played by a bear.

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wolverine much?

"...Moreover, it appears there are lots of people out there interested in the magnetic implant subculture--which apparently is a real thing..."

"Stupid" is a real thing and a great many people attempt to make a culture of it. Moving on.....

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Science sees no further than what it can sense, i.e. facts.
Religion sees beyond the senses, i.e. faith.
Open your mind and see!

I'm not sure how strong or weak of an AC current the test subject is able to feel, but it could be useful for an electrician to have these implanted. He would be able to feel if a circuit is live before actually touching a conductor, and help keep him (or her) safe.

If I am told a circuity is dead, I reply thats nice, then I pulled out my multimeter and test it.

@Robot: If a deaf car engineer is told there's something rattling in a car, they'd have to check it by looking at it. If someone who can't sense magnetic fields is told by someone who can that a circuit is dead, they'd have to use an external tool to test it. Just because you don't have a sense, doesn't mean it's something to look down on.

Of course, you should always double check whether a circuit is actually dead before touching it. It's always the first step in any service instruction. That said, dozens of people still die every year while unknowingly working on live electrical gear. Implanted magnets require no batteries, and can't be turned off or left out in the truck. It could serve as an extra layer of safety - in those cases where the technician is about to reach out and touch a live conductor, this could be a last warning that there may be live current.

@joeyjam...better just to not respond, cheers

joeyjam,
Ok, you are in support of this, great and you like it too, great.
I have been a technician for over 25 years. I have worked with up to 40V AC, I trust no one with my life, except myself. You can do what you want. Good luck.

.............................
Science sees no further than what it can sense, i.e. facts.
Religion sees beyond the senses, i.e. faith.
Open your mind and see!

Ooops, lol.
I meant to write 40kVAC... take care..

This is extreamly old news, I read about this in 2003. The biggest issue is that eventually the bio friendly coating that covers the magnet wears away and even if a microscopic tear happens. The magnet becomes highly toxic to the body and turns the finger black. This requires surgery to extract the toxic magnet or amputating your finger completely. Thats the worse case scenario, at the best case scenario, the magnet will eventually be rejected and pushed out of the body.

sixth sense indeed. The little magnets push and pull on his nerves and he 'senses ' them. Could probably do the same thing if they were glued on externally ( and it would be safer). You'd have to maybe file your fingertips as safecrackers used to do, but it would probably work.

This just seems stupid, there are lots of ways to sense magnetic fields (using instruments) that are precise and much more sensitive than this method.

ford2go,
I like the way you think. Imagine wearing a tight rubber glove with these magnets imbedded in the rubber. You could sense the current flow and you have some shielding with the rubber glove. When working with high voltage they already make and require wearing a standard high voltage rubber glove too. Still I always prefer pulling out the multi-meter and simply doing a few voltage checks. It ends with safety for the technician and safety for the equipment. It is so easy to do. ;)

.............................
Science sees no further than what it can sense, i.e. facts.
Religion sees beyond the senses, i.e. faith.
Open your mind and see!

This guy is a little late to the party, Shannon Larrett (Zentastic)and several others did this like 10 years ago.
http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Magnetic_implant

google it.

Playing Devil's Advocate since 1978

"The only constant in the universe is change"
-Heraclitus of Ephesus 535 BC - 475 BC

Yes, as Code Zero mentions I've had these implants for almost ten years. I did have some problems with the coating on some of them but that's an issue that's been solved at this point -- just a problem with one of the early manufacturing methods.

The magnets have literally given me a "sixth sense" in that I can, in a very natural way (it feels like a new sense, not like buzzing fingertips), feel EM fields... For example, I can feel the bubble of EM that comes off of transformers and feel their strength and frequency, I can feel power flowing through cables, I can feel harddrives spinning through a computer's case, etc... It gives me significant insight into our modern environment, and in addition to just "seeing more" it has often had a diagnostic value when I'm trying to figure out what has gone wrong with an electrical device.

--==]] visit my blog at zentastic.com [[==--

This is interesting. My initial concern would be how it would affect working with electrical components, i.e. magnetometers and other magnet-sensitive components - but I guess that is not a huge concern. Interesting thought being able to feel the pull of the fields from electrical cables and transformers.

Would it work just to make tight gloves with the magnets in the fingertips? Or even just fingertip things like the rubber ones you use to thumb through a stack of paper, and put some magnets in those? Seems less extreme.

RisingPhoenix - The magnets are generally not strong enough for it to be an issue with things like drives, but if you were working with sensitive magnetometers I suppose it could be a problem... But that's a very specialized issue I think.

dukane - I have heard of people sort of getting the effect by glueing small magnets to their finger tips to create an analogous "haptic interface to the EM world". I don't believe a glove would work well because the material of the glove would dramatically mute the signal. Also, it's a bit more vulgar in terms of resolution since with the glove/glue method the magnet sits external to the nerves under layers of thick dead skin, whereas with the implanted ones the magnet is intimately amid the nerves and in living tissue. Maybe more importantly, it takes a few months to really understand "what you are seeing", so if someone wanted to use the glue/glove method they would have to be pathologically committed.

i want to implant magnets all over my body. i want to be the real life magneto.

"religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom"

-Killah Priest

one thing everyone seems to be missing here is that its not a means to sense electrical current, its for sensing magnetic fields.. try seeing if the curcuit breaker has been shut off next time you switch an electric outlet using a magnet.. at least one good thing will come from it, natural selection.

@cvore2004,

well played. LOL

"religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom"

-Killah Priest

+zentastic = how about a simple magnetic glove?
Put the tiny magnets in a latex glove, close to the skin. YOu should feel the same thing as having the magnets under the skin. I would think. Much safer and can be changed, removed and refreshed.

Im so happy that i found this article becouse i have been thinking about it quite a lot too.

Who knows whats gonna happen when they drill into the earths core i think its a bad idea.

Hello,
I am working on documenting my one experance as I get a magnetic implant I would like for everybody to check out my blog and comment or leave some ideas for me.

Arealsixthsense.blogspot.com

Thank you,
T.J.



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