If you ever have trouble remembering your dreams, you’re certainly not alone. Our dreams are as elusive as the mechanisms behind them, few of which are understood completely. But Dr. Moran Cerf wants to develop a system capable of reading and recording your dreams electronically. Cue the “Inception” theme music.
Cerf believes that it’s possible to create a system that would allow psychologists to compare patients’ recollections of their dreams with an electronic visualization of the activity in their brains, and he’s taken the first steps toward doing so via a study that associates specific, individual neurons with specific objects or ideas.
By building a database of associations for each patient, Cerf and his colleagues could figure out what a patients was thinking about without him or her saying so. With a large enough database, the thinking goes, a third party could “read minds” by looking at which neurons light up during the course of a dream, creating an electronic record of said dream.It’s quite a leap from being able to identify a neuron associated with a specific thought or concept and being able to translate the rich canvas of a dream into an electronic visualization. In fact, more than one person in the fields of psychology and neurology seem to think the idea is far-fetched.
But the idea behind Cerf’s research is tantalizing and could lead to better understandings of the brain’s function if not a dream recorder. Better brain-machine interfaces are the great promise for those trying to develop systems to enable incommunicative people, such as those with locked-in syndrome, to communicate again. And as brain sensor technology provides higher resolutions and becomes less invasive, a system that can identify and respond to abstract concepts at the neural level could be the basis for thought-controlled machines in the future.
For now, Cerf continues to build his neuron-thought databases. The next step is to monitor the brain activity of his volunteer patients – who already have electrodes implanted in their brains to treat them for brain seizures – as they sleep to see if he can decipher exactly what it is they are dreaming of. By comparing how different brains tie different thoughts and concepts to different neurons, Cerf could learn quite a bit about memories and how the brain organizes the information it collects.
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LOL I don't know why,but when I saw the article all I could think of is last week episode of South Park when they made fun of Inception.
I tend to remember a lot of my dreams and they tend to be wild. Dragons chasing me, me flying, me killing someone I don't know. Sometimes I know I'm dreaming and try to control it but end up waking up instead.
In some of my dreams there are roads and I know if I follow them they will lead me to an area where I had a different dream. One raod leads to where the dragons chase me and if I go down it I run into dragons so I avoid it.
I actually drew a map of my "dream land" in my journal.
Last week I had tea with the Queen of England and Peter Falk.
Yeh I'm weird. (-:
If dreams are the result of random firing of neurons in brain and the brain trying to make sense of it, it will be hard to figure out dreams at all lol.
I would only want to record my dreams once I could fully control them. Neat idea though.
On a side note what are with all these random sale adds? Thats a dumb way to sale your items.
I’m not sure a Brain Computer interface BCI devise is the best approach perhaps an MRI Machine rotating into different sleep rooms. When a patient go’s into REM sleep they are put into the MRI Machine to record visual brain activity. A digital simulation is made of the dream and the patient is woken to review it or a different patients dream to check the quality of recall. Although BCI devises have proven themselves in approximating cat vision, a quiet MRI would be more through and less evasive then surgery.
This is a strongly recommended approach for just out of combat troops to see how traumatic memories solidify in their sleep cycle. Perhaps this will lead to new treatments and drugs to prevent Post Traumatic Stress Disorder PTSD. Perhaps simply preventing REM sleep, or sleep deprivation after combat will reduce vivid memory and the disorders effect. Keeping in mind memory burn in after a near death experience is advantages, and normal, to all animals. It could also gain some military funding with this approach.
The last dream that I could acually remember involved Dick Cheyney wearaing only cowboy boots ... So ... I think all the ramifications of such a device should be carefully weighed.
This would be interesting. I usually remember parts of my dreams at night and used to remember a lot more when I would keep a dream journal. I do remember that I have full senses, full color, can fly, can read (if I don't look directly at the object) and have limited control over my dream world (if I'm looking for my truck for example I can morph another vehicle into it if I focus.) Some of my dream experiences are a result of toying with lucid dreaming though. I'd love to record my dreams to play back later and see exactly what happened.
NEURÔNIOS EM FESTA
MOR
Já tem mesmo quem atesta
Um avanço na tecnologia.
Ver os neurônios em festa
Nem seria por pura magia.
Nosso é uma central elétrica
Que emite pequenos sinais.
Sem nem explorar a estética
Da mente ao coração e mais.
Desvios no sistema neurais
Com os novos medicamentos.
Ler já os pequenos sinais
Já devolve belos momentos.
Eletrônica é a magia
Nesta era moderna.
O médico já desafia
A vida pode ser eterna.
Monóxido de carbono
Poluindo a atmosfera.
Seria logo ele o dono
Matar o povo da esfera.
Com o sonho a decifrar
Na esfera da memória.
Tudo já identificar
Rever logo a história.
Nos lampejos dos neurônios
Informação vai viajar.
Sensores não são demônios
Tudo logo vai relatar.
Do algorítimo a magia
Neurônios a emitir.
Condutores de energia
A leitura já permitir.
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Maybe they will be able to tell WHY a person with sufficient B vitamins do not dream but those with too few B vitamins DO dream ?
that is the coolest thing ever, didn't think this could ever be possible. i'd be up for recording my dreams. thats great that this enables ppl to communicate with those who are unable to
i think this is a really great invention. it could be very helpful for recording dreams for future use and analysis, and it could also possibly lead to actual mind-reading
This is amazing. It can be so annoying forgetting about what you dream about. And even when you do remember you may not remember every detail. This device could give you an in depth look at all the facets of your mind. This is a great stepping stone in brain technology.
The idea of recording youre dreams would be amazing. I hate when I forget a dream and if I ever try to write it down I end up with a bunch of gibberish. However, I would be wary about someone watching my dream. That would be aweful blackmail material.
As a sci-fi fan, I found this story interesting. As a neuroscientist (involved in auditory and oculomotor research, and neural prosthesis and multi-neuron recording technologies), I'm extremely skeptical.
For starters, this research group will eventually have to get FDA approval to implant intracranial electrodes for NON-clinical reasons. Otherwise, the technology will be a hard sell for commercial interests or even other researchers.
Second, a necessary first step to prove these theories would be to reconstruct a concurrently viewed image (much less a remembered or dreamt image) from neural recordings. Has this been done in any meaningful way, in animals or humans? Not really. And definitely not with a moving image.
Of course, correlations between neural ensemble firing and other aspects of a dream (i.e. not involving entire visual images, as this article suggests) can and have been measured. And simple scalp recordings (e.g. of premotor areas) can predict what arm or eye movement an animal or human will make milliseconds later. But I think that falls far short of "mind reading".
this would be useful because i could write books off my dreams there that complex. and a dream recorder would make that a billion times easier
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Look, this recording and playback of dreams has already been accomplished, as shown in the documentary "Brainstorm," featuring Natalie Wood!
As shown in the movie, dreams are recorded onto reels of what looks like wide, shiny-chrome videotape and played back on the same VTR (think "VCR," but with tape reels rather than cassettes).
I hate it when someone steals technology and claims it as his own (Steve Jobs's theft of Xerox technology comes to mind, as does Bill Gates's.).
As we all know, Wood doesn't always float, and Natalie drowned under mysterious circumstances, following an alcohol-fueled party aboard a luxury yacht. Then, the dream-recording technology disappeared, in the Hollywood noise (Did hubby Robert Wagner's alibi sound weak, or what?!) that followed her death.
So, stop giving these thieves credit and, instead, dig up the "Brainstorm" invention. Now, that Hollywood is forcing expensive, DRM-crippled video discs on us, the languishing video-tape industry could sure use your help!
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can we record and playback Dreams ?. study of neurology i.e by neurosurgeons can achieve this dream reality.
can we work in this way using transmitter-reciever circuitry ?. i.e design and built/manufacture a electro-neurogram medical electronic device similar to a electrocardiogram device which measures heartbeats/pulses in the form of sinusoidal waveform ?
the nerve cells of the brain which holDs memory will have transmitter circuitry as part of the surgery/operation will send electrical impulses/signals on occurance of active cells i.e a thought/s has activated in the cell/s in form of dream in the subconcious human mind. the reciever antenna of the electro-neurogram will capture the electrical signals/impulses transmitted by the transmitter.
the graph plotted by the electro neurogram wlll have time unit on the x-axis i.e hours,minutes anD seconds i.e say 12 am to 12 pm (human sleep time) and plot a straight line/curve on the y axis for that Duration of dream time occurance.
so the time when the dream has occured will be known. by data mining of several graphs of human beings we can reach to some conclusion regarding the nature of dream i.e good,bad and possible conversations.
we will have to speak to neurosurgeons whether this experiments will work as there could be thousanDs of nerve cells which holds human memory i.e permanent and temporary memory storage area.
thanks & regards,
prashant s akerkar
(information technology professional,mumbai,maharashtra,india).
please refer the placement of electrodes section in ecg
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web url : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrocardiography
similarly we have to place the electrodes on the external brain - human being skull portion after discussing with neurosurgeons regarding the electrodes/transmitters placements and total number of transmitters.
internally maybe we have to do surgery/operation for placing the transmitters in the nerve cells where human memory portion of the brain is stored. the transmitted signals in the form of waves i.e electrical signals/impulses will be captured by the electro neurogram measuring device having a recieving attenna capturing the waves, embeDdeD with a voice recorder , printer connected and a speaker device. the plotted graph can be printed on the printer device and possibly the conversations which the human being had within his dream/s will be recorded. the recored conversations then later will be played back on the speaker output.
thanks & regards,
prashant s akerkar
(information technology professional,mumbai,maharashtra,india).
web url : http://www.linkedin.com/in/prashantakerkar
don't we have to manufacture a new device
electro neurogram oscilloscope similar to
a cathode ray oscilloscope for recording and playback
of dreams interfaced with a printer, speaker and voice recorder ?
also we have to get the exact placement of electrodes/transmitters to be fitted along with the
total number of electrodes/transmitters to the specific
temporary human nerve cells area of the brain which stores
human thoughts and maybe to other parts of the body.
refer web url : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscilloscope
law/rule : the level or extend of damage of permanent memory storage area "nerve cells" of the brain is directly proportional to time taken by the human being for recollection of thoughts.
i.e.
1.severity of damage of nerve cells is more when the time taken for recollection of thoughts is less. example : 2 hours.
i.e person recollecting the thoughts is not able to remember just after 2 hours.
2. severity of damage of nerve cells is less when the time taken for recollection of thoughts is more. example : 30 hours.i.e person recollecting the thoughts is not able to remember after 30 hours.
thanks & regards,
prashant s akerkar
This is sooo cool! There should definitely be alot more research into this type of field! I've always wanted to have my dreams recorded!!!