In the collective modern imagination, crop circles are usually attributed to either aliens or a vast human conspiracy; possibly both. Some circle-watchers believe the designs are landing strips, maybe, or some kind of communiqué from outer space. Others argue they’re the result of secret government tests, or perhaps secret codes meant to convey information to satellites and aerial drones.
For all the talk about who makes them, few people discuss how. Do people (or little green men) stomp around willy-nilly until the stalks fall down? Or is something decidedly more high-tech going on? We talked to a circlemaker and a materials physicist to get some answers.
It’s a fair scientific question, according to Richard Taylor, a professor of physics and art at the University of Oregon. He believes circlemakers, as they’re known, are using some advanced technology, from microwaves to GPS, to make their increasingly complicated designs.
"Although it’s an odd topic, it actually is quite rigorous science — here’s a mystery, here is a potential hypothesis that would solve this," he said. "It’s a perfect example of seeing something out there in the real world and using science to explain it. It’s just a little bit more exotic."
Roughly 100 circles appear in the UK every summer, according to circlemakers. Taylor has a few ideas about how they’re done, which are outlined in an article in the research magazine Physics World. We talked to Taylor about his research and about his new ideas. An edited transcript of our conversation is below.
Click here to see a gallery of fractal-shaped crop circles.
Just to be sure, PopSci asked a UK-based circlemaker to share his techniques. He won’t give everything away, but he says microwaves are not involved. (Read more from him at the bottom.)
PopSci: What piqued your interest in crop circles?
Richard Taylor: My research background is with human vision, and how we can develop artificial retinas. As part of those studies, we try to understand how people view natural patterns, so we try and explore how people view artworks.
I grew up in England in the 1980s, when these crop circles were starting to get a lot more intricate in their design. Even at that stage, I began to realize the myth, which was that a few people were stumbling home and sort of fooling around in a field, that was clearly no longer an appropriate description of what was going on. Some of these patterns were incredibly intricate, with thousands of component parts.
The thing that really triggered it for me was that nobody, from the art world or the science world, was exploring how these people were able to produce these intricate patterns overnight. The old myth, that people were stomping on crops, was getting increasingly ridiculous, from my point of view. It seemed to be a great art-science crossover question, of what is going on?
PS: Why should people care about how these are made? Other than to prove or disprove aliens, of course.
RT: These crops, after they are turned into artwork, are harvested. So whatever is going on with those crops, they are getting in to our food supply. So people ought to know about it if there is some interesting technology involved.
Some people think it is aliens, you’ve got conspiracy theories about the goverment using satellites, and the third is you have human hoaxes. I thought, well let’s take the evidence that people are using to say it’s aliens or a government conspiracy. Why do they say that? They cite publications from the 1990s, where biophysicists went in and did research on the crops that appeared in the patterns. And they found evidence for microwave radiation.The UFOlogists said those microwaves must be coming from alien spaceships, and the conspiracy theorists said, the CIA is beaming down these microwaves from their satellites. And I said, hey, there’s another explanation here — maybe the artists are using microwaves.
PS: How would microwaves flatten crops?
RT: A typical crop has these sort of joints in the stalks. If you expose those to the microwaves, the stalks expand. It’s called superheating. It’s a bit like what goes on in your microwave oven — as the stalk heats up, they expand. The stalks fall over in a horizontal position. When you switch it off, switch off the microwave, the stalks stay in that position. It would make more sense to radiate with microwaves than to go physically stomping these crops. And one interesting phenomenon is the stalks are never broken, they’re just bent.
It’s all a consequence of the development of modern technology. It’s only fairly recently that we’ve been able to have portable magnetrons that can run off a 12-volt battery. Before, you would have to take a generator with you to a crop field.
I’m not saying this is actually what is going on; my article is one explanation. This seems to fit all the facts, and you don’t need aliens. Note: See below for a response from a circlemaker.
PS: OK, so say you have a spare field and a magnetron — how would you make a crop circle?
RT: I would go on a computer, go into a design program, and design the pattern prior. Then I would convert those measurements on the screen into GPS coordinates, and then I would go out with my little GPS watch or whatever, and at each point, I would be able to stake out the pattern in the field. If you are using straight lines between points, I would use a laser to figure out a straight line. That’s how I would design it.
Then the physical imprinting ... one possibility is to use microwaves to superheat the stalks and cause them to fall down. Before they cool down and anchor into place, that’s when you would sculpt your pattern — when they are still flexible, when you could weave the patterns. I’m not saying that’s what they are doing, but I am saying that’s perhaps what they should be doing.
PS: How many people would it take?
RT: The designs that are coming out now are so beautiful, I think it’s not just one lone person working in a field. Even if the technology improves, it will still be a collaboration between a number of people.
PS: Are they getting bigger or more intricate? What’s the crop circle trend?
RT: Some of the patterns are quite incredible. Some of them are 115 meters (377 feet) in diameter. If you were physically imprinting it, that’s quite a lot of effort. It’s not just going and stomping down a line, because within that 115 meters, there might be like 190 little circles of different sizes. And they’re beautiful to look at as well.
So this sort of myth that it’s a couple people hoaxing — that’s certainly the way that it started, but that’s not what is going on now.
PS: Has anyone accused you of ruining the mystery, like spoiling a magic trick? Isn’t the secrecy of the technique part of the mystique?
RT: My briefest claim to fame is that I analyzed the artworks of Jackson Pollock. Some in the art crowd said 'maybe you shouldn’t be using science to explain away art.' But what happened there was, by identifying the types of patterns in Pollock’s work, it made his work more wonderful, because it emphasized his talent. We found fractals in his canvases. Previously, people had assumed these were random splatters of nonsense and had no meaning to them, but we identified these natural patterns in there. He had managed to distill the essence of nature on his canvas in a direct way. That was a great example of scientific knowledge added to the value of the artwork, and I’m hoping the same thing will happen here.
If we can identify the tools that these artists are using, it’s not going to trivialize it. It’s going to demonstrate how talented these artists are.
My motivation, is to say to the world, that these patterns are spectacular, and the people who are making them have talent, and that talent should be celebrated. I think the answers will add to the celebration of these amazing thing.
Note: We also talked to circlemaker John Lundberg, who told us the following via email:
In the field, we use very low tech equipment, surveyor's tapes for the measurements and a device called a 'stalk stomper' to flatten the crop. The stalk stomper is a 4-foot-long piece of wood with two holes drilled at each end. A piece of rope (approximately 8 feet long) is looped through the holes at each end and tied. To use the stalk stomper, you place your foot in the middle of the plank of wood and hold the rope in your hands like horse reins, then you step forward with the foot that is on the plank to flatten the crop.
I can assure you we've never superheated any crop stalks. If such things are allegedly found in crop circles, they are either present already and unrelated to the creation of the crop circle, or more likely it's just bad data based on bogus science.
The only technology I use is computer software to design the crop circle construction diagrams that we take into the field with us. I use the type of software an architect would use to design the floor-plan of a building.
I create a series of construction diagrams that lay out the construction sequence and all the geometry and measurements we need to create the crop circle. Most crop circle designs are symmetrical, as it enables you to efficiently create a very complex looking design with a relatively simple set of instructions that repeat. Asymmetrical designs are far more complex and time-consuming to create, which is why you don't really see many asymmetrical crop circles.
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There is a down side to reasonable, plausible explanations and even solutions. We then stop looking for what was the orginal cause for the crop circles. For me, until we catch the space aliens, governement or hobbiest in the act of making a pefect crop circle and then interview them and prove how all the other crop circles are made, I am just not convinced yet.
@bubbagump: you do know that the second part WAS such an interview, right?
I'm thinking that crop "circle" is no longer an appropriate name.
why learn from your own mistakes, when you could learn from the mistakes of others?
really popsci, i normally don't complain about what you put on here but to give this wacko a forum to advances his crap is a bit much, crop circles have been thoroughly debunked, the reason they have gotten more complex and more numorous are because the humans creating them have increased in size and skill over time, why mostly in the UK? that's where they live
@BubbaGump...you fuc#ing idiotic troll, these crop circle artists have been filmed and interviewed while they were in the act of making crop circles, get a life
Your really going to do this Chuck? Please, go troll elsewhere.
The way the data falls, yes, some of them are made by humans, but others are mysterious. The earliest scientific report on crop circles was in the 1880s, around surrey in Great Britain. They appeared after violent storms in the area with no explanations at the time. More data needs to be collected before a conclusion can be made, because there does seem to be evidence of superheating in some of these formations. Such data will never be collected though, primarily because of outbursts from people like Chuck.
@drchuck1, dude, why are you so upset, lol. Yes, they have filmed farmers or locals making crop circles or and there are copy cat crop circle makers. I never made any type of claim how these things were made. It does give me great joy though that I did happen to upset you, how very cool, thanks.
@drchuck1, if one guy is caught making a crop circle stopping around with his feet and is filmed on TV, does this mean all crop circles in the whole world and the history of crop circles were made this way,NO. Like I indicated in my first comment, I like to catch the original crop circle maker, the same guy who is making them all over the world and then inverview him into how he did and and see him prove how he did it. Yes, it would be a fact finding mission and reality. Really, why are you so upset? Not enough fiber in your diet and your fool of poop, dude? Fiber does a body good, have a prune! ;)
not upset, so don't go crea#ing in your pants just yet, your still a fuc#ing lying troll, you stated "Yes, they have filmed farmers or locals making crop circles or and there are copy cat crop circle makers." but you stated earlier "For me, until we catch the space aliens, governement or hobbiest in the act of making a pefect crop circle and then interview them and prove how all the other crop circles are made, I am just not convinced. I never made any type of claim how these things were made." you say they have been filmed making crop circles, then say until they catch them in the act, then you say you never stated how they are made even thought you did state how they are made, do you actually pay attention to what you post, lier
@you are such a troll, no one is claiming one person did it, i for one am never reading another post from you and i hope many others do the same, i dispise lying and you are a lier
@Falconer13...are you really going to keep spreading such ignorance? people like you are the reason the USA is the conspiracy theory kingdom
correction, no one is claiming one guy did it all over the world, most of them are in the UK
Chuck who peed in your cheerios today? Why do you always feel obligated to put others down? I don't respect bullies.
I am curious to what inspired people to start making crop circles. Could they have been first done by aliens and if so, how?
@drchuck1, you've managed to insult every person who has posted comments on this article. Sadly, making yourself look like a bit of a loser.
I fully believe that with the electromagnetic currents surrounding us- it is totally possible that there are some real ones. Look at the intricate process of DNA. How could it possibly not be possible?
@drchuck1, Dear Chuck, honey, sweetie, you do realize you have a profile and all who desires can read you past comments right?! You have developed a distinct reputation in the style of how you play with others; the fact speak for themselves.
Still, really, why are you so angry. Yes this is PoPSci and yes it's about science, but this also a blog where any person from any place in life can comment. You act as if each person must submit their comments to you, prior to posting. People have opinions and comments for factual and any other reasons. People may even comment from a religious perspective too. It’s a blog, people are allowed to comment. Just so you know the point of science for the benefit of humans, it reflects backwards towards ourselves and yes we humans have a right to comment. We can comment, feel, be factual or non-factual; we are allowed to express ourselves. Here on this blog if you do not feel someone’s comment is relevant to you, then just move on and forget about it. Wow us with your own comments, less all you have is anger and the ability to attack others.
But really, thanks for the laughs, you are funny today! lol
You do realize I am laughing at you, right, lol snort....
@drchuck1 please debunk this, no one has thus far, and the people who witnessed this swear this is real.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWG2JBM4lg
Many crop circles are made by humans....those are copycats.
Crop circles have been around a lot longer than the 80's LMAO
http://www.consciousape.com/news/prehistoric-ufo-and-alien-cave-drawings-found/
This is not the whole image, but the whole image shows crop circles. And if you do a quick google search on cave paintings and crop circles, you will find images from all around the world, from India to Germany showing these designs.
Who ever is making these things is alien to our comprehension.
Radiological surveys have been done on crop circles and the land shows microwave activity.
WEIRD
As far as I have seen the only thing crop circles bring is "surprise", something was done unexpected and it was done in a way most people cannot figure out. At least the monolithic structures around the world tend to equal seasonal calendars and align with stars. Has any human yet learn anything useful from the crop circles (I am curious to know). I just have a gut instinct the crop circles are human made and well serve no purpose but to surprise us.
Here's a site, which really should have been mentioned in the article and investigated by its author, that categorizes all plant, soil, and atmospheric anomalies found in *some* of the circles (that the string-and-board explanation can't account for):
http://www.bltresearch.com/plantab.php
It's worth exploring, just check out the list of the highly regarded/qualified consultants who have provided their time and expertise on the samples:
http://www.bltresearch.com/proffcons.php
Also, you can find all the latest circles at these two sites (not sure of any sample testing done to them - but they're stunning, nonetheless):
video - http://www.youtube.com/user/BZCAPMOOR#p/u (check out recent uploads)
pics - http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2011/2011.html
This one might be my favorite:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT_C_S0pzdI
Several years ago when I was still in elementary (or in middle school) I saw a program that debunked a lot of myths. One of them is crop circles.
Crop circles are made by medium to large groups of people with special devices that easily bend tall blades of grass and corn stalk in a uniform matter and shape them into circular designs with prudent planning and speed.
They work in the dead of the night and finish their work hours later before daybreak when people wake up. It's easy to pull off on countrysides because people in such sparsely populated areas take to bed quicker than people in metropolitan areas and they don't take to the fields until it's light enough to see the fields.
The fact that people are still trying to attribute crop circles to UFOs/Aliens is laughably ridiculous. I'm sure if anyone does the research they can find out how to make crop circle designs and how to make them quickly and efficiently enough to play pranks on whichever gullible soul they choose.
This isn't science. It's utterly dispicable
"Welcome to the Federation Starship SS Buttcrack!!"
congratulation to the artists. I particularly appreciate the Julia set and the jellyfish.
Great work
@BubbaGump Day in and day out Ive seen your comments all over PopSci always trolling/responding to other people who hardly post at all. Always lashing out at others who happen to call you out yet while preaching "Here on this blog if you do not feel someone’s comment is relevant to you, then just move on and forget about it."
I don't know if you do it because you just don't get enough attention while not on PopSci(which almost seems impossible for you to do) but it always seems as though you are more than desperate for it and ALWAYS coming to PopSci to fulfill your needs.
Just stop, sure you have the right to your opinion and ideas but that does not mean everyone wants to know about it.
Especially 10-15 times a day
@Escape, noted and deleted, thank you.
@Escape, You profile is just minutes old, you provide zero history of making any intelligent useful comments to this article or any other articles. Your first comment is of bashing! You illustrate to the world a first impression of yourself. My comments in the beginning of this article did not harm anyone. My last comment that these crop circles are just man made does not harm anyone. I guess you get a warm and cuddly feeling from drchuck1 comments since you post nothing about him. In fact odds are you are him, by you ommission to notice has bad behavior and you own profile is only minutes old.
@BubbaGump Alright Bubba I will give you the satisfaction of receiving attention. I am not chuck1 and I never had the need to post any comments until now because as a person that reads PopSci every once in a while your daily unnecessary comments just made me decide to act.
Do you see your effect? You are so annoying a random stranger decided to make a account just to tell you so. And yes of course as a professor in crop circles I wanted to add some useful comments so everyone can care and I can make a drastic change in the way we live(sarcasm).
The point is BubbaGump you might think of yourself as a highly intelligent being with amazing interesting thoughts people would love to know, when fact is you are a annoying attention seeking troll.
Also I will now try harder to ignore you since I can see giving you attention only makes it worse.
This is the conversation concerning the recent crop circle that appeared in China which can be seen on the earthfiles.com website.
J. Hello, this is John of Revelations here on Earth. How may I address you, please?
A. Yes, John, you may address me as Madam President.
J. We are astounded by your beautiful and huge crop circle
and/or land circle. Amazing - such straight lines and dug into the earth. Can you describe what you meant?
A. Yes, of course. We are delighted to make contact with you. It is a symbol of friendship to your people on Earth.
J. Thank you so very much. It has generated much interest
in China and around the world.
A. I see you are not in China.
J. No, I am on the other side of the Earth in the United States of America.
A. How did you get the picture?
J. Master Chow took photographs and posted them on the Internet which is our global communications system - not mental telepathy!
A. You are very capable in mental telepathy.
J. Yes, I have contacted 1200 civilizations in the galaxy including 550 Pleiadian Federation planets.
A. Oh, my, you are the best on your planet.
J. Thank you for your kind words, Madam President.
Is your science adviser and legal/financial officer there with you also?
A. Yes, they just came in.
J. Please say hello to them also.
A. I did.
J. Would they like to say something?
A. This is the Financial/Legal adviser - hello!
J. Hello.
A. This is the Scientific adviser. Hello.
J. Pi.
A. What is that?
J. Hi is hello, and Pi is 3.14159265 which sounds like Hi.
A. That is funny. So when I greet my committee I will say Pi.
J. Most amusing!
A. We are all laughing.
J. Me too. What did you do with the dirt that was removed from the circle?
A. Yes, we scooped it up and put it on our mothership!
J. Is that for your new garden in space?
A. That is funny. No, in a large storage bin.
J. Your crop circle is 2000 meters in diameter, so how large is your mothership if I may ask?
A. Our ship is 5 times that or 10000 meters long and 5000 meters wide and 1000 meters high.
J. So I take it that you don't actually need a planet!
A. Ha, ha. Yes, we are now on our planet.
J. We have some lovely purple and yellow flowers and vegetables in our garden that you can plant in that soil.
A. No, no. We have plenty of that.
J. Does your circle have a meaning we should know about? It seems Oriental for the Chinese.
A. Yes, it does. It means no matter what path you take in life, you always come full circle!
J. Oh, my! That is profoundly beautiful. May I disclose that here to others who will be inspired by your comment?
A. By all means.
J. I am overwhelmed.
A. This has been a great conversation and humorous too. We have to go.
J. All right. Thank you again. Over and out.
A. Over and out.
End of conversation.
John St.Clair
In other conversations with the aliens, they say that the crop circles are made with gravitational waves.
Here is the conversation with the Commander of the spacecraft who made the recent vortex crop circle which can be seen on the earthfiles.com website.
J. Hello, this is John of Revelations here on Earth.
How may I address you?
C. Call me Commander of our spaceship.
J. Hello Commander. Thank you for making the crop circle illusion. It is marvelous.
C. Thank you. It took some time to calculate it.
J. Yes, indeed!
C. What did you discover?
J. The area of the circle divided by the area of the
ellipse is pi/2. Correct?
C. Yes, very good.
J. There appears to be more than this but I am still working on it.
C. Yes, there are more things to discover, but that
is a good start. Thanks for contacting us.
J. How far away in light years is your planet located from Earth?
C. 10,000 light years.
J. Is your planet similar to that of Earth?
C. Yes, 10 billion people, 50% water.
J. Are you a member of the Pleiadian Federation?
C. No, we have a group of planets as a cluster nearby, whereas the Federation has planets scattered around the galaxy.
J. Interesting. What made you decide to make the crop circle for us?
C. We wanted to establish contact with the people of Earth.
It is a gesture of goodwill.
J. Yes it is. Thank you for your act of kindness.
C. You are welcome.
J. Is there anything you want to say before I sign out?
C. We thank you for contacting us and wish you well.
Over and out.
J. Over and out.
End of conversation.
John St.Clair
The fractal crop circle shown in this article was made by the reptilian Nagas who live co-dimensionally with us here on Earth.
@Escape...thank you for your comment, nice to see one resonable person post on here, i was obviously over the top with my comments, i don't feel bad about it because he deserves everything he gets, hope you will continue to post on here, cheers
@JohnStClair, LOL
I am sure drchuck1 & Escape eat from the safe breakfast bowl. Interesting side note here drchuck1 of all our conversations, I have never asked you to stop commenting or to go away. I never just out of the blue insulted you, but I respond to your comments only. But it seems you intent on controlling mine and other peoples comments. Why do you feel the need to control? Why do you insult others? I Enjoy your breakfast and have a great day! Comment all you wish and take care!
i always read all the comments and here is what i see:
bubbagump has some very interesting theories and he is not afraid to express them. a lot of them are worth reading too, if you give him a chance. a lot of his more extravagant ideas you guys take to be trolling. drchuck, all you do is insult people so maybe you are the troll? just try focusing on the article once in a while instead of what people have to say that you dont agree with.
i don't know what to believe about crop circles, but isnt it hardly of scientific nature to "debunk" something based on the "confessing" of one individual? i await more information to make a decision
Dudes just STFU. I can't believe I just scrolled through 32 comments hoping to find insightful views only to find your cr@p floating around.
@ Bubba: Obvious troll is obvious. Your first post was practically begging for attention and flaming (Aliens, seriously lol. They're about as scientific as vampires, fairies and Santa Claus). This is a SCIENCE magazine, stay with proven facts and keep the conspiracy theories out.
I think crop circle designs would be useful tools for VMC flight navigation. Imagine just being able to find which way you need to go thousands of feet in the air by just looking down at designs that direct you on a certain path and you find a particular design at a particular part of the journey. Navigational plans could be completely signatory. It'd be easy for a computer program to interpret and display a flight plan with an explicit set of directions for each symbol. It'd be complex, but it's still in the realm of practicality. It might even be a means of making international air routes that are universally translatable and not totally dependent on the english language.
@Nouda, as much as I acknowledge aliens in my first comment, I only did so because so many others believe aliens have something to do with crop circle. Now I do have a weak kind of feeling that maybe aliens have visited us humans in past history, but that feeling has nothing to do with crop circles. From all I have observed in life about crop circles they just appear for shear entertainment, "SURPRISE" and do nothing else informative to human kind. They are just an attention getter. This being said, I believe humans create crop circles and are very clever in doing it. I also believe it has cause copy cats around the world and at different times.
@Nouda, There are a lot of highly establish scientist who have gigantic satellite antennas pointed and listening to the stars of hope to hear an alien communication. They do so, because in their belief is statistically possible they will hear one. Many highly establish scientist study asteroid fragments in hopes to find DNA or its fragments from outer space. They begin this science because they believe its statically possible. There are those that are archeologist and historians that get surprised by what they find and see as possibly being interpreted humans were visited by aliens in the past. My personal opinions are I believe in my own religion, I believe in science and I do believe we will find space aliens or alien life on another planet one day. I do not feel finding alien life hurts my religion and I feel science gets stronger and smarter each day and all is well. Oh, I do not have a gray alien tied up in my closet, wrist bound and feet bound, as far as I know, no one does either.
@pheonix1012...how did you go from debunked to they are used for flight navigation? unless you think aliens are using them, humans don't need them so why would aliens that transversed the cosmos to get here need them? cheers
@Nouda...you are correct, cheers
What the hell, this video is showing you how real crop circles are made.
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWG2JBM4lg
Say, isn't that Triskelion design in the main photo the logo from the short-lived TV series "Threshold"?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWG2JBM4lg
Those are vacuum domains generating interference waves - which pretty much goes hand in hand with Richard Taylor's hypothesis.
Who do they belong to and why such huge, elaborate art works? Are they there for our enjoyment? Our Education? 99% of the trogs on this planet don't care about them. Why are most of them being carved in the UK? Why do UK farmers feel blessed when the "artists" are drawing in their wheat fields?
Look up ball lightning, orbs, and vacuum domains for my hypothesis.
@HealingMindN - The reason that the crop circles are carved in the UK has to do with tetrahedral geometry.
If you imagine one tetrahedron with the tip at the north pole and a similar one with the tip at the south pole of the Earth, then a line, from the center of the Earth through the midpoint where the tetrahedrons intersect, intersects latitude 52 degrees. This is where the crop circles are made because the spaceships come in through the geometry of space-time.
If you read my two conversations with the aliens, you will find out why they are made.
Here is my issue, lol, too.
If an alien race was say 1000 times or more smarter than humans, does smart make you better at ethics or morals? Could the aliens be the same as use in our own human mistakes, frailties, ethics and morals? Could there be a small percentage aliens that are mischievous;- why, because they can. Could there be a small percentage of smart aliens that are bad and could care less of the penalty from its own society? Could wonderful sweet kind aliens be among us and hidden from view; 100% stealthy. Could a few semi good aliens take a joy ride on a space ship over a city on earth and turn off their cloaking devices say 10% to see the humans run about and point at the sky? Could bad things happen on earth, because some aliens just enjoy seeing bad things happen?
If we can statistically imagine highly intelligent aliens in space, there is no reason to believe they want to be found, they are good, bad or different morally than ourselves. We humans could just be bugs to look at under their microscope. As you walk into a office building, do you feel guilty if you step on a ant on the way in? Does being smarter make you more caring?
Oh crop circles, well feel lucky, those are just the mischievous aliens making a joke of us, as we wonder about scratching our heads. Sometimes its good to have a little fun even for an alien, lol.
Nostradamus said that they are grey birds.
@sam6302, Nostradamus was a normal and good man. He was an excemptional doctor and highly intelligent. He was traveling and treating sick people from the plague and was gone in his travels while treating the sick from his family. Upon his return to his home, his family died from the plague. After this he was a change man. He was intelligent, he loved his fellow man and he loved his family. He was grief stricken and broken after his family died, a changed man.
@BubbaGump - If you want to see an image of Nostradamus, there is a crop circle comprised of three images containing circles only.
In Photoshop, combine the three in layers and then use the blur tool to bring out his face. It shows his bulbous nose and bald forehead and white beard.
Nostradamus now lives in the Pleiades. When remote viewing him, I saw in his mind a chandelier made up of a circular array of stove funnel lamps, each with a lit candle inside. Then the lamp collapsed and crashed.
It turned out that Indrid Cold's planet was having an upcoming exhibition of its new spacecraft, flying several in formation. These craft look like a funnel lamp as seen in Good's book "An Alien Base." Due to a defect in design, the microwaves from one craft get into the control electronics of a nearby craft, causing a fire. If these craft would have caught fire, thousands of people viewing the exhibition would have been killed.
Cold's name is a permutation of "Coil in 3D, r."
@JohnStClair, Recently as I was sitting down to my breakfast cereal of fruit loops and I started to have widely dreams and seeing various colors, sounds and smells. The next day I woke up and had a very strong headache. I also notice I had just finished writing a comment on PoPSci, lol. Reading you comments you just confirmed my suspicion, you at and I must have had the same type of fruit loops, poison from alien encounter. I hope you headache goes away soon, take care. ;)
http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/06/12/
the-strange-case-of-indrid-cold-alien-from-planet-lanulos
alrighty then......
I completely expected the comments I read here to be under the "crop circles" article...
@John St. Clair, & BubbaGump,
It frightens me that (presumably) you are allowed to vote or participate in our society in any way.
@BubbaGump - No need for you to get tacky with your comments.
Here is Nostradamus' crop circle image.
@B.V.,actually the frightening thing is they are the norm these days
@JohnStClari, I had no tacky inclination towards you are your comments. Thanks for the update pic of Nostradamus.
@B.V., I think its wonderful that so many people from so many different perspectives of life can vote. It's scary to think people like you wish to stop this.
@drchuck1, if its your true belief I and others are the norm. I guess you clarifying to us all, you must be the abby-normal,........ hmm!
Say did you know you made 10 comments here.
I guess you got you motor boat fix and are just trolling
along.....
just jok'n. SMILE! ;)
@B.V. - I noticed that you didn't get the Nostradamus crop circle image.
Nor did you contact the two crop circle designers either.
Strike 3 for you!
Ya there were way more crop circles made long before these and your just noticing now!!!!
@Joey9771, to what date are you reffering of ancient crop circles and what history books or religous teachings or anything do you reference. I only ask, because I wish to know and this would be of great interest. Just curious and please provide references or links....
I don't know exactly and I will try my best to locate and provide links.
Here is one of many I had remembered and i do wish to provide more.
www.world-mysteries.com/sci_14.htm
Not saying anything but it still does say that there were ones in the past and these are with lasers.
this is a phenomenom that has grown in complexity and popularity as the ufo phenomenom has, they have a life of their own with more people getting involved (scientist, corporations, makers, believers, spiritualist, ect.) joining the fray as time goes by, it is all nonsense but fairly entertaining
@ Bubbagunmp. Gay
@L.Ron Hubbard.
You illustrate some kind of hate statement?
I am happy.
@L. Ron Hubbard,
Lafayette Ronald Hubbard (March 13, 1911 – January 24, 1986), better known as L. Ron Hubbard (and often referred to by his initials, LRH), was an American pulp fiction author and religious leader who founded the Church of Scientology.
By taking his name as a Login, I guess you prefer this mans beliefs and ideas. If you have hate in your own heart, I think you are need of much more growth.
Good Luck!
Madam President, the woman who made the crop circle in China, said that no matter what path you take in life, you always come full circle.
So I made drawing of the crop circle and measured the path length around the interior path and back to the starting point. The ratio between the circumference of the outer circle to that of the path is 1. So she is correct, you come full circle!
Pretty neat.
I forgot to mention that Madam President contacted me again. She said they had put the dirt from the crop circle on their own planet.
I told her there might be insects that could contaminate their environment. She said not to worry because they exposed the soil to the vacuum of space, then filtered and sterilized it.
So now I have the China crop circle, the flag, the vortex and the fractal triangle crop circle that involve pi.
Notice that e^1.638528420/pi = 1.638528420
From a logarithmic manifold, pi brings in a value there to the same value in this dimension.
@JohnStClair, if the space aliens truly loved us, they make crop circles like apple pie and we all can come together with forks and nives and vanilla ice cream and enjoy the pie. Perhaps with the correct prayers we can have a Kabbalah experience and speak to Nostradamus or at the very least predict our own futures.
ya know.... I made a attempt towards being a little funny of sort.. But I realize I may of offended the Jewish religion by including the word kabbalah and I wish to retract and take back my comment and apologize. I was stupid in my words.
..... my mind earlier to the idea to make a joke, "But, I believe in GOD and I believe GOD speaks to all men and woman with love", I respect all religions and cultures. Often in life I see people make idols and I worry about this. I feel science clarifies what is true and real. I feel religion encourages our soul, our inner spirit and we mature in life and find its true meaning for each person. I like science because it chases away idols. Our dear Lord is real, the lessons we learn of our spirit is real and unique for each individual person and spirit. I feel Christian in nature. I feel there is validity in all religions and cultures. Because simply, I believe our dear Lord LOVES ALL.
Consider this, Venus will be in perfect alignment with our sun and us in 2012-December and Venus is also nearly as massive as Earth. Additionally, scientists conclude that the structure of the planet's interior is similar to Earth's, with an iron core and a rocky mantel.
Venus takes 225 Earth days to complete one orbit of the Sun. And like the other planets in our solar system, Venus rotates about its axis. However, Venus is the only planet that rotates from east to west instead of west to east. This means, that if we lived on Venus, the Sun would appear to rise in the west in the morning, and set in the east in the evening!
So if you know anything about electronics, electrons, mutual inductance, when Venus is in perfect alignment with the sun, and ourselves it would be a great time to change the earth’s magnetic fields and move things about....
"Hello December 21, 2012." Of course why it’s not as big deal in the media or the governments concern; well the 99.9% of everyone cannot do anything about it and telling them about it is not helpful in general. Of course the Mayan Calendar had a idea of things to come.
Crop circles may have had a few messages in them by our alien friends, but they have been drown out by copy cats and media reports; perhaps government inspired or managed as well.
Yes we do have alien visitors and observers. But as much as science likes to say they are statically possible, as soon as anyone sees one, well that person needs to be committed. I think a little politics and government plays then too.
Still, nothing you and I can do about the movement of Venus and the passage of time.
Personally, I believe it’s best to be a good person at heart.
Praise my Dear Lord always and try to be a good person too.
Do you know what the queers are doing to our soil?!?
They're building landing strips for gay martians, I SWEAR TO GOD!!!!!
I like you Stuart, you're not like the other people, here, in the trailer park.
-The Dead Milkmen
Stuart
Is this comment section some sort of idiot convention? If so, I want in. OK here I go.
Wouldn't it be crazy if crop circles like started appearing in people's backyards in NY, and then all like aliens from the sky came down and went for the city. Then a heroic dog all comes and talks to the aliens until they are convinced that the human race is a bunch of babbling dumbasses and KABLOOOEEEEE Michael Bay explosions KERPOOOWWWW BLOOOSSHHHH the end.
A gay martian teleported to Earth,
where to her surprise she had to give birth.
It was her first indiscretion,
which led her to ask the question,
"Is it too hard work for what it was worth?"
When the aliens landed in China,
Soil they took 'cause there was nothing fina.
When asked about their hoe,
They said it was needed so,
To grow veggies and herbs for their dina.
Sorting through the comments, a few have said they believe the circles to be man made. The problem is, a circle that is "authentic" has electronic interference, magnetic interference as well as some other strange problems.
As for aliens, I do believe that we are both being visited now and have been in the past. All evidence seems to point to us being visited much more in the past then present (though it seems to be ramping up.) There are many old cultures (native americans, many south american, aboriginies, african tribes and more) that have very old tales of the star people coming to physically visit in their chariots/thunder birds/ect. There is a lot of documented sightings and mass sightings as well as a few documented battles from ancient times. Because they are described differently and we look down upon ancient man as somehow being dumber or less intelligent, then we automatically dismiss them as lore or mass hysteria. Today, those that believe in anything out of the "norm" is labeled almost the same. Ghosts, aliens, yeti and some others are labeled by scientist to be false. Yet, legitimate scientific study has never been even tried in most all cases. Scientist are afraid to touch anything like that with a 10 foot pole or, their career may be over. The sooner we get over ourselves, the soon we may wake up to what is really happening around us.
@Geawiel, please consider this. In the past, our visiting alien friend was treated like GODS. So they could fly about and land and talk to us, without being harmed. We humans were in awe and mystified everything they did. The aliens could mine for gold in Southern Africa or Egypt and mine for minerals in South America too. To get the help of the natives they worked with the currently religious belief system and built some monolithic structures with their own tools to inspire them and keep them at bay. They even taught us humans about the stars and gave us language and a calendar.
But here are modern times. A large quantity of us are literate, technology savvy and posses a lot of WEAPONS. Our military are extremely watchful as well. So now currently the aliens only show themselves in the tiniest stealthiest way.
Just ask yourself the question of what a local government would do to find an unidentified aircraft in their space; they chase it and if it does not respond, they would fire upon it. Aliens are around us, but they are forced by our technology advancement to stay stealthy. Thousands of years ago they had no fear of being caught and dissected like a lab rat. But today, I am sure the fear is real of being biology studied under a microscope or dissection table.
@Geawiel, as our human scientist find different animals useful and interesting too study, so maybe the space aliens as they study humans. Plus they only land on earth, should they need a resource, otherwise is study from a far.
In the past, our visiting alien friend was treated like GODS. So they could fly about and land and talk to us, without being harmed. We humans were in awe and mystified everything they did. The aliens could mine for gold in Southern Africa or Egypt and mine for minerals in South America too. To get the help of the natives they worked with the currently religious belief system and built some monolithic structures with their own tools to inspire them and keep them at bay. They even taught us humans about the stars and gave us language and a calendar.
Perhaps we humans help mine our resources in the past, so the aliens still find usefulness in humans for the future. The Aliens maybe holding back on taking over the earth, because of our bacteria, virus, fungus and gaseous earthly environment is hostile to them. Maybe they need us, still.
I'm starting to think that maybe BubbaGump and John St.Claire are actually really good AI's...
Kinda like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmarterChild or something.
From what I've seen, BubbaGump seems to be the more functional AI as most of the time I think he would pass the Turing test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test).
JohnStClaire on the other hand is a pretty crappy AI... kinda like those spam bots in AOL chatrooms back in the day who sounded like a real human until they started posting crap about "free photos" and "being bored"... well, except John posts about aliens and remote healing and such instead of porn...
@B.V. Yea, AI, Yea, Yea Yea AI.... or is that Rainman... hmm
@bubba:
I totally agree. As our technological advancement went on, direct interaction ceased. It has been seen in many modern sightings that, when the military gets the chance, they can and do chase any ufo seen. This happens over any country with the ability to scramble aircraft.
For their interest in us. It was said in one ancient story of a battle over earth (can't remember the story name) that, there are 2 good races phased just outside our dimension that are watching over us while orbiting earth. Unfortunatly, that doesn't include the greys. So if that is indeed the case, then some are getting through as greys are almost exclusively what is reported. Likewise though, those are the ones that have produced the most frightening encounters and even attributed to full out abductions where the abductee doesn't return.
@B.V. - It would be better for you if you had some interesting things to say, rather than getting on Bubba's case, if you know what I mean.
Last week our energy healing session treated people for edema on the brain and ankle, heart arrhythmia, overweight, ADD, fear/anxiety, wound healing and a few others. One man, who had heart arrhythmia and was looking gray, called yesterday and said that he was feeling much better after the Tong Ren session. It turned out he was taking the incorrect mineral supplements.
I have also treated the president of an alien planet, located 70,000 light years out, for a bad bacterial infection. In this case, I combined my knowledge about energy healing, remote viewing, hyperspace physics and aliens to save his life. He was very appreciative.
I think it is important so provide the correct counterbalance as to how things work. In this article, it states that lasers and microwave beams are used to make crop circles, whereas I know directly from the aliens that they use gravitational waves. As for the China crop circle, the Chinese are saying it was made to promote some new product. Because it would panic the Chinese public if large motherships were landing there, they are covering it up as some publicity stunt which we now know is false from contacting the aliens directly.
I also invented two more energy devices which I printed on a 3D printer. One boosts the energy field enormously.
So, again, B.V., what have you done lately? Not much. You need to get it together.
@John St.Clair, '... i go to the dark side...’ Sir, you must forgive B.V. for he is a Hermaphrodite. So in life you can imagine his frustration, not to mention he has much colon problems from when the aliens experiment on him when he was abducted observing a crop circle being made. Part of the alien experimentation they removed his memory and so he has no knowledge of this. Yes his memory is located in his colon; it does explain why he speaks shit most of the time, without thinking. The aliens as they abducted him were really surprise by all the crap coming out of his mouth and felt compelled to remove the source of the problem. And with the fact he has no memory of this and he was left with a feeling he is normal. Well, he feel he is normal, you can just imagine his own frustration. Yes the aliens were kind and left a portion of colon so he could function in life, but still crap spouts out of his mind and mouth. We are fortunate his attitude been reduce greatly. Still, B.V. will not change and even with space alien medical science, there is not much more anyone can do. Dear John, I do appreciate you coming to my defense... Tomorrow is a new day and we all can begin a new, yes.
Here is a link to a National Geographic Documentary on Youtube about the crop circles:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW3LsGmt55M
Here is a video someone made of BubbaGump and JohnStClair:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzlbyTZsQY&feature=player_embedded
@B.V. Thank you for showing the video, lol.
@B.V.
I lol'd.
@drchuck1
That second statement was speculation. I'm not implying aliens use them. But, I could imply that pilots for government agencies worldwide could use them for unique routes not normally used by civil air traffic. That is if these signs are plotted in paths that would disregard special use airspaces for clandestine use.
The first statement was simple: These designs are made by people. There is footage showing people making these things at night.
While I am a proponent to the possibility of sentient extraterrestrials that have visited this planet (mind I say possibility; there is no fact without universe un-discredible proof) I know for a fact that people are making crop circles. It was easy in the past to make connections between crop circles and UFOs for the plain reason that they were regarded as being so weird when they first appeared to public eye.
The first crop circlers probably never knew their hoaxes would take on this life so they continued to do this sort of thing (with copy cats along the way) to make people shout, "Aliens!" whenever they came across them.
You have to admit though, the artwork is sufficient for low altitude visual navigation. Plus, it's better to have the after effect of a prank to be a terrified farmer running to the police about aliens than an angry farmer bearing a shotgun, hot on the trails of the perpetrators. With the latter, someone could get seriously hurt.
@BubbaGump
'... i go to the dark side...’ Sir, you must forgive B.V. for he is a Hermaphrodite. So in life you can imagine his frustration,..
explained! can all do be circles this crop! not decipher
Translation: NACCCBEDNDT
I like Bichon dogs!
May I have your attention please?
May I have your attention please?
Will the real BUBBA please stand up?
I repeat, will the real BUBBA please stand up?
We're gonna have a problem here..
Y'all act like you never seen a Troll before
Jaws all on the floor like MACMANSA just burst in the door
and started whoopin a** worse than before...
It's the return of the... "Ah, wait, no way, you're kidding,
he didn't just say what I think he did, did he?"
And DRCHUCK1 said... nothing you idiots!
DRCHUCK1's dead, he's locked in my basement! (Ha-ha!)
Feminist men love BUBBAGUMP
[*vocal turntable: chigga chigga chigga*]
"BUBBA, I'm sick of him
Look at him, walkin around grabbin his you-know-what
Flippin the you-know-who," "Yeah, but he's so cute though!"
Yeah, I probably got a couple of screws up in my head loose
But no worse, than what's goin on in your parents' bedrooms
Sometimes, I wanna get on TV and just let loose, but can't
but it's cool for JOHNSTCLAIR to Abduct a dead moose
"My probe is on your lips, my probe is on your lips"
And if I'm lucky, you might just give my probe a diagram
And that's the message that we deliver to little kids on the news And expect them not to know what a woman's Bubba is
Of course they gonna know what UFO encounter's is
By the time they hit fourth grade
They got the History Channel don't they?
"We ain't nothing but abductees.." Well, some of us Aliens
who cut other people open like cattle [SLURP]
But if we can probe dead animals and cows
then there's no reason that a Bubba and another Bubba can't Troll [*EWWW!*] But if you feel like I feel, I got the antidote
Aliens wear your whiterobes, sing the chorus JOHNSTCLAIR and here is how it goes!
@JohnStClair...you are hilarious, really, I laughed my a+~ off at your comment on the terminator's bullet train plans. Now, man-up, and tell us what you really think about it, if you, of course, have reparticulated with enough of whatever was left of your dignity pre-teleportation...