The agents provocateur at Defense Distributed welcomed Congress back from recess by releasing a video of a brand new 3-D printed AR-15 receiver being used to fire multiple 100-round magazines. The video, embedded below, features a gun being fired for almost the video's entire 3-minute run time, with both a Fused Deposition Modeling and Stereolithography model (these are different 3-D printing techniques) of the 3-D printed receiver tested. The receiver could have been tested with any magazine, so picking these truly massive 100-round ones, three times the size of those regularly carried by soldiers, is a direct rebuke to Congress, which is currently debating a ban on high-capacity magazines, starting at 30 rounds and possibly going as low as the President's desired limit of 10.
Defense Distributed first made a name for itself with the Wiki Weapon Project, which solicited plans for a working gun that could be made using a relatively cheap 3-D printer. Currently, Defense Distributed's site
only offers two sets of schematics, both based on the same 3-D printed receiver: the first is a kit designed to convert an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle into a .22 caliber hangdgun, and the second uses the receiver in a normal AR-15 construction. In addition, nearly one hundred schematics for 3-D printable gun parts are available for download at DEFCAD, which is a Defense Distributed project and accessible from their main site.
The last time we saw Defense Distributed test a 3-D printed lower receiver, it broke after 6 shots. The latest video shows that it can survive a whopping 600 shots. This suggests that Defense Distributed has made significant progress toward its goal of building a working 3-D printed gun. Next up, a 3-D printed magazine? Oh, wait.
HELL YEAH! eat it congress, nothing you can do will regulate the mother freaking internet!
do you smell that? that's the smell of freedom.
to mars or bust!
I'm mostly impressed that drum magazine didn't jam. Those things have a reputation for that.
Its file sharing all over again...with guns. I think its already too late. All this time and all these chances to do something meaningful about the continued manufacture and distribution of firearms. Wasted.
Welcome to a future where every man, woman and child can instantly download and print out assault rifles with high capacity magazines. So long gun control. So long safety. So long order and civilization.
Every nut bag with a printer and a hotspot arming themselves to the teeth.
So sad that we want peace so bad, but aren't willing to give up our weapons of war...
Vega obscura; not only are you being pessimistic you are being stupid. it's not the power that corrupts people, or in this case it's not having a gun that corrupts people, and turns them all into homicidal, thief, rapists. if you are going to do any of these actions because you suddenly had a gun then you'd do any of these actions with a knife of some sort or with your bare hands. the point is that the gun is only an enabler just like a knife would be.
peace will never come through disarmament, whenever we've seen any one populace disarmed it's been borderline tyranny. Germany was disarmed after world war two and for close to 50 years had a giant wall bisecting it. Japan was disarmed after world war 2 as well and now they are scrambling for any kind support from the overt tyranny that China is showing. we the people of the united states cannot be disarmed if we are to ever survive the next century.
gun control is not safe, at all, it's more dangerous than the guns they are trying to take away. we cannot trust the government to safeguard our morals, our forefathers understood this, our forefather's forefathers understood this. this is why when we first made the constitution we made sure that every citizen was allowed to have a gun. it wasn't just for foreign invaders, it wasn't just so they could hunt for food, it was to safeguard the people from their own government that would undoubtedly try to take them away along with our other freedoms.
besides when the shit hits the fan i'm sure our enemies will love you so much that they won't hesitate to get you a nice comfy room in a gulag. or prop you up against a padded blood stained wall, for your comfort of course, as they go ahead and slaughter you and people like you like they would cattle. i'm sure that our government would love to have you around because you don't have the balls to ever say something that would be seen as "controversial" or "likely to cause dissension". when our government shows it's colors, when our enemies get fed up with their loaners, when the shit hits the fan, i can promise you, you will not survive.
finally i'd be careful who you call a nut from now on, we are working on arming ourselves aren't we?
to mars or bust!
I HAVE BLISTERS ON MY FINGER!!!
@Vega Obscura: Couldn`t agree more. I want to live in a society that advances itself (like something in Star Trek). Not a society that degrades itself to ever lower standards because some people don`t want to live by any rules, standards or compromise. Freedom is NOT everything because it needs to be bounded by the limits that allow social balance.
Otherwise anything goes and law and order disappears. The fact is Every Single Empire in world history has collapsed either because of war or because freedom (personal satisfaction) became more important then good old balance and financial health. Every Empire in history has collapsed because of fools wanting more power, more gain for themselves. Absolute freedom equals Absolute Chaos. Every fool with a death wish being able to print the deadliest of weapons equals more chaos, more fear and more instability. Instead of more stability, more peace, more love and more trust.
@ghost; I dare you to watch the following video to see what all your so called freedom means for the US and the direction it`s taking. This is just the tip of the ice berg that is coming in your dream of absolute freedom:
"People Of Walmart (Sexy And I Know It - LMFAO)"
it`s on youtube.
Now if you want much more of that absolute freedom and to live in a society were every retard with a death wish can print the deadliest weapons and no one should be able to stop him then i feel sorry for you. Society can not function with your absolute freedoms. It can only degrade that way until certain collapse. Just as every single empire until now has collapsed the US will be no exception.
No. I love living in a society that seeks balance and seeks rules and order and compromise. Because i know stability is what a healthy society needs. Just as any individual needs stability to live a strong, long and healthy life. These deadliest of weapons do not belong in a smart, healthy and advanced society. It leads to a society of more insecurity, more fear and more destruction. And don`t even begin saying you can`t stop it. We can clone human beings in our time but we don`t because we as a society have decided not to. It`s a choice we make. I want a Star Trek future not a drugs, alcohol, endless self indulgence future.
Oh noes! What if they 3d print a knife and stab me to death with it, we must ban all 3d knife models.
@adaptation. You can already buy knifes all over the place. Printing them is no different. Killing people with guns is far easier and quickly killing large amounts of people you will need a gun (or explosives or poison). Yet the opponent of a knife can even (in most cases) fight back against a knife attack or have the chance to escape. With a gun that is much, much more difficult. It`s like comparing a balloon to an airplane. Comparing a tent to a house. Over 3 times as many people die from guns then knifes in the US per year. Even while there are far more knifes then guns.
About your statement
"I want to live in a society that advances itself (like something in Star Trek). Not a society that degrades itself to ever lower standards because some people don`t want to live by any rules, standards or compromise. Freedom is NOT everything because it needs to be bounded by the limits that allow social balance."
Who gets to make the rules and what are these rules?
Who gets to define what “Advancement” is?
What's your obsession with guns America? Most of the rest of the world have very little interest (unless you're a farmer). Seeing you posing proudly by your Christmas trees with assault rifles last year was fairly disturbing to say the least. Fair enough have a more relaxed gun law but don't treat them like toys or loved family members. It's sickening! Of all the weapons.... an assault rifle - that's a tad overkill surely.
It's basically the end of the world's if people have guns. People need to get a grip. Going on a rampage isn't the only thing people can do with guns and it's very uncommon compared with how many people do own guns. People would freak if someone were making these negative assumptions about an ethnic group or religion the way so many are about gun owners.
Lets be honest, 3d printing guns is nothing new.
There was a good reason why the USA didn't want Ammunitions included in a UN ban on arm's.
Gun's don't kill people, bullets kill people!
Im pretty sure Syria has had gun-smiths sent in to arm the opposition.
@matsci1. Clearly it is my own dream in what i like for humanity and it`s direction. As always some people have a vision with no rules, no government, no laws. If the right to bare nuclear weapons was in the constitution would you support it. Just about every nation in the world has worked for centuries and centuries to develop courts, police departments, ambulance services, hospitals, fire departments, health care services, even standing armies exactly because they want rule of law, exactly because they want to be protected and provide a stable environment, a stable place for their children to grow up in.
It is about democracy and through bad gun experiences like the recent school shooting that left dead (yet again) many innocent children that this issue moves forward. For most nations in the world that is not even a question. As making it difficult to get guns clearly (and greatly) reduces gun related crimes and gun related fatalities. It is therefor a natural outcome for an advanced society to get rid of easy gun access for people that don`t require it. As it clearly benefits society with less killings.
The fact is that the US (from old days of great uncertainty) has the right to bare arm in it`s constitution exactly because it was needed back in those days. And clearly there is no longer an absolute need as most nations in the world are showing with great success through low gun crime rates and low gun related fatalities. Can you even imagine an advanced alien society visiting earth and wanting assault rifles on their spaceships. An advanced society will want less weapons not more. An advanced society will want more stability no less. An advanced society will want more certainty and safe guards not more chaos and more fear.
Looking at the direction through democratic process it seems the US government will increase gun laws not reduce them. This could even be applied to 3D printing companies having to put in protection systems, Internet companies having to ban 3D gun printing files and extra extended jail times for people who carry these extreme assault rifles or other banned weapons. Clearly i greatly welcome and support this direction.
@Fletch, Hey buddy your concern for American citizens and our governing policies is touching, it really is, in fact I was so inspired by your generalized opinion of all Americans that I will follow your example of stereotyping an entire population of people and return the favor. As you have not provided your country of residentcy I will assume that it is not America based off your post, therefore I will also assume that American influence is something that effects your life, as you have commented on it. America is influencial I know, no need to put it into words. Your country probably not so much, as I could care less what happens within your borders. As the world superpower American policy on gun control is a riveting issue that the entire worlds population should follow very closely as it is a major issue that would affect every living person from now until end times, wouldn't want your sensitive eyes to have to see America posing next to a christmas tree with an assault rifles anymore, now would I. Remember no matter what you take away from this, always keep in mind, your opinion counts.
Gun nuts will soon be extinct. Heres my reasoning. One, they obviously have a lower IQ because only the ignorant fear the government, random people, and probably wildlife too.
People with a lot of guns are far less likely to attract intelligent or beautiful women, so their offspring will be progressively uglier and dumber.
Their numbers will also be culled through attrition after they decide the government is out to get them and open fire on police or civilians. Those that do survive will inevitably face execution or life in prison.
The NRA is a terrorist organization, and people with assault rifles are terrorists. Get a life people, get rid of your guns and give your head a shake. Rabidly defending your so called "right" to kill others shows your kind is a subspecies and is destined to go the way of the dodo.
"Absolute freedom equals Absolute Chaos."
A classic straw-man argument. Freedom is not an absence of laws or rules. That is called anarchy. Freedom is being able to do what you want, as long as you are not infringing on another persons rights.
No one is advocating "absolute freedom" or anarchy. Killing a person is illegal, you have denied their right to live. Owning an assault weapon is not infringing on anyone's rights.
Your problem is that you do not trust your fellow citizens. You would take away their power, my power and your own as well, leaving all the power in the hands of the government.
"Freedom is NOT everything because it needs to be bounded by the limits that allow social balance." lol WHAT!? Are you kidding me?whos social balance? Your western view? Hope the middle east? or south east asia? The system we have in the united states has worked because of the constitution it follows. A governemnt remains respectful because it knows that the people that support it may over throw it if needed. The fact that you (Greenmatrix) think that just because we are in a modern time don't think we need them just shows how little you know and how niave you are. Go google The battle of Athens TN. 1946 a "modern" time. Firearms, in the right hands, do not create fear they create calm. I have never felt more safe than when i know i have access to my firearms. Also the largest killing of children in a school was not done through firearms but an IED look it up.
To everyone that thinks that the ability of someone to build a lower reciever and large mags means that every crazy person will get one and make these "deadly"(haha) weapons and go kill everyone.....think about it, first the need to buy a 1.5k(the very least) 3-d printer, printing stock, learn to use a 3-d printer, print them, then buy the upper reciever, then buy ammo etc. etc. you've allready spent more time and money than if you had just gone out and bought them yourselves....if any thing this technology only benefits hobby shooters.
“And clearly there is no longer an absolute need as most nations in the world are showing with great success through low gun crime rates and low gun related fatalities.”
This statement is very logical…if a means to commit a crime is less accessible then it can be expected that crimes committed with the means in question proportionally be reduced. But that does not say that it will reduce crime across the board.
I live in Germany now and one of the phenomena that is a lot more common over here than in the U.S. is the burning of vehicles. Here is a website that was keeping track of the vehicles being burnt just in Berlin.
However they stopped counting after 3 and a half years and 633 recorded cases. The website still exists though.
A lot of this was done by leftist groups that were unsatisfied by the way society was going. Especially when a renovation project was being started and was tearing down the rundown buildings that they took over and were squatting in.
As you put it:
“Just about every nation in the world has worked for centuries and centuries to develop courts, police departments, ambulance services, hospitals, fire departments, health care services, even standing armies exactly because they want rule of law, exactly because they want to be protected and provide a stable environment, a stable place for their children to grow up in.”
The police department and court system , as can bee seen by the graphic on the website, were not successful in stopping this behavior. However the fire department had a good record of showing up to put the fire out..after the vehicle was destroyed along with other flammable objects in the area.
I do not ever recall a phenomena like this happening in America. Is it because the America police are more efficient at doing their job than those in Germany?...or is the court system in America more advance than that of Germany? Then again, if a group of society decided to act like this in America and go on a car burning spree how long do you think it would be before the owners of the property being destroyed were watching from their windows waiting to protect what is theirs and that of their neighbors? One of the difference that gives the American Property owner an advantage over the German property owner is that he is allowed to have a gun.
Then there is the cross border crime in the eastern region of Germany that borders Poland and The Czech Republic. They steal everything there…including the copper rain gutters and down spouts off the houses. And what easy picking the thieves have to. In a lot of these small towns in the boarder area the younger people have moved away because of lack of work and the older retired people have stayed on drawing their pension. Now if you are a thief in your late teens or 20´s, what fear do you have to have from an old retired person? If you are in Germany, the retired man is probably not going to have a gun. What is he going to do…yell at you? Call the police? Yeah, go ahead…call the police. The police will show up in these areas in about 30 minutes or so. By the time the police get there the thieves are long gone with your rain gutters or whatever else they decided to help themselves to.
You mentioned democracy a few times in your post. Take a look at the result of the elections in Italy over the weekend.
This is from CNN. The articles in the European news services are more critical but most are not in English.
These guys were elected through a democratic process but do you really want to entrust them with upholding a system where the “Rule of Law” provides a “Stable Environment”?
You write “Clearly it is my own dream in what i like for humanity and it`s direction.”. Everybody has their idea about how the world “Should Be” and there is no problem with that. Where the problem arises and things can get dangerous is when people start viewing “Should Be” as “Is” and make themselves vulnerable to something in society that they have been trying to ignore.
I'm glad you could intellegently add to this convo. Looks like your offspring have a bright future.....
if you truly think that you can complete trust the gov. with out fault, i think the founding fathers of this country might want to have small talk with you.
you surely do not understand the true meaning of anarchy...
(what you describe reseblse more to those tennagers who listen to nirvana painting the walls with A's...)
Nature is driven by anarchy, and yet its not chaos and have its own sets of "rules".
No facts, No response...
When is the last war you remember America being involved in where Americans were directly threatened by another world power? The few in control of America have made war against many countries for their own betterment and self interest. As far as I see, WWII was the last war where America was threatened to the extent that war was necessary. Wars since then were made up by politicians who used Americans as their slaves to fight people in other countries who never threatened us, so the politicians could steal the resources for themselves. IRAQI "insurgents" were former business owners who saw their businesses stolen and sold to the highest bidders world wide.
We are now pawns and participants in a "game" played throughout history where those in power use those without for their own personal gain. Americans only have their legally owned firearms to protect themselves from a total takeover. Those in power are trying to weed out as many owners of firearms as they can. This is easy to see. Why did our government purchase billions of rounds of jacketed bullets that can only be used domestically? And fully automatic weapons? Crowd control devices? Internment camps?
If our government feels Americans should be disarmed why are they arming themselves to the teeth? Who is going to use the machine guns and jacketed bullets purchased by the government this year that cannot be used for war according to international treaty? Aren't military people humans too? Our military members are trained to kill. What makes them more trustworthy than citizens who passed the intensive background checks performed on ever carry permit holder? (BTW ... jacketed bullets are NEVER used for practice as claimed by DHS - too expensive - regular lead bullets are used.)
Take the example of the 2009 massacre at Ft. Hood where an army psychiatrist shot and killed 13 recruits and wounded 32 others. He selected a place where he knew people DID NOT HAVE GUNS to defend themselves with. What stopped the slaughter? The arrival of police with guns to shoot back. The government wants to give this man and others like him MACHINE GUNS and an unlimited supply of bullets. Shouldn't this example and that of the other massacres of people by lunatics in "GUN FREE ZONES" let Americans know that this latest attempt to disarm the public is based on falsehoods and has a motive other than safety behind it?
PS ... There is NO SUCH THING as an ASSAULT WEAPON. This is a term made up by American politicians intent on disarmiing the public who want to perpetuate misunderstanding and misconceptions about firearms in the general population so they have a chance to succeed in their ultimate power grab. No other country uses this term including the UN
I get the meaning of my words from the dictionary. There are several definitions of that particular word, but context makes the intended meaning obvious. If you do not agree with that meaning, I suggest you take it up with the DSNA.
boohoo, someone is grumpy today ^^
internet has anarchic structure, cant deny that...
No facts, No response...
everyone getting so excited over 3D printing is a hoot, you cant build an entire gun so what difference does it make, and here is a little known secrete, it takes about two hours to modify any 30 cal magazine into a 30+ round clip with a few simple tools that lots of guys have in the garage
another thing if the government outlawed the sale of high capacity clips today, they would still be around a hundred years from now, people wont give them up, besides if your looking to kill a crowed of people 3 inch 12 gauge 000 buck shot is a better choice not a gay 223 or 9MM
ianredneck, as usual i disagree with you, but i am defintitely glad we can disagree, as both of us live in countries where our governments allow us to protest, and allow free speech. (and allow gun ownership)
IMO, if owning a gun makes you feel calm, you live in a constant state of fear. I dont live in fear, any day , and i dont feel the need for a gun. The government doesnt scare me, mine or yours, or anyone elses.
Spreading the attitude that people need guns to defend themselves or to threaten their government into submission is terrorist talk. People can get along just fine without guns. Especially high capacity ones that have one function in mind. Murder. You and anyone else here can justify murder however you like, whether it be children in a foreign country, women in your home country, police officers in your home town, but its still murder and its still wrong.
Sure there are a few hobby shooters that could benefit from having a 3d printer, but are the few minutes spent shooting at targets for personal gratification worth the deaths of a few hundred that will inevitably occur because a psychopath gets his hands on a high capacity magazine and arsenal?
This is a clear cut case where personal freedoms should be infringed upon , like all the reasonable comments from vegaobscura and green matrix, because for society to advance, there needs to be limits on personal freedom. Like rape laws. I strongly support rape laws, because they impinge on the personal freedoms of assholes. The straw man argument (which i have heard twice today on this site) is infantile and doesn't hold up under scrutiny.
(1) This is nothing more than using a $10k 3d printer to produce legally at home what anyone using a $10k aluminium printer can produce legally at home - or, for $85-350 you can simply buy a lower (the "lower" is the part that the government considers the "gun" - the rest is not regulated). Thus, this in no way makes guns cheaper, more available, or more open to crime with current technology.
(2) I am glad to see that the newer model is more reliable than the old. Advances in technology should always be celebrated (maybe better heat tolerance in 3d printed material or greater strength under strain).
(3) People who are pro-gun freedom fear the government, because they have read history books and they fear criminals, because they watch the news. People who are anti-gun freedom fear that the only thing keeping their neighbors from killing them is that their neighbors simply haven't found the means to kill them with yet. Which one is paranoid?
"only the ignorant fear the government"
Those that do not have a healthy fear of government are ignorant of history.
"...there needs to be limits on personal freedom. Like rape laws."
Perhaps we should make penises illegal too.
I'm British, although I'm not sure how that makes a difference. I guess by your condescending tone you took offence to what I said. Infact, I wasn't trying to deny anyone a right to bare arms. I even said that we bare arms here... if we really need to. The occasional shot gun, a pistol if you need it for your job, a fair few air rifles. What I don't get is why there is such an obsession with heavy assault weapons in America and why a large amount of the gun owning population seem to want to show off their over-the-top weapons.. What possible use could you have for an assault rifle as a regular citizen?
I fear you may have taken my first few lines rather personally, resulting in you skipping over the over all point I was trying to raise and going straight for the defensive diatribe!
i don't live in fear but i do know that the police don't always stop crime. They usually show up afterwards. It in generl takes 10-15 min to get to you. And in that time the crime is usually committed. So if anything i'm a realist. Do you have locks on your doors? Do you lock you car doors when you leave it? If you do then you live in fear as well. You just trust another level of security than me. I know that i can defend myself better with a weapon than a locked door.
Well thats the first time i've been called a terrorist for knowing my history. That whole People who don't understand their history are doomed to repeat it. You say people can get along fine with out guns. tell that to the citizens of Athens TN in 1946 or the German in the early 30's. how about the Cambodians in the 60-70s. Say that to the hundreds of thousands of people who use firearms to protect themselves every year. And why would i need to jusitfy any murder, murder is against the law and shouldn't happen.
I think there is a fallacy in your thinking that people that want to hurt people will stop wanting to hurt people if they don't have access to firearms...how wrong you are! They will always find a way to kill many people. Just like the bombing of the school in IL that caused the largest loss of life in school intentionally...the guy used a bomb. No shots were fired.
I also think you have a fallacy of thought on perosnal freedoms and how it stands in the United States. Personal freedom is everything. And as soon as you start "impinging" on others thats when you break the law true. The right to self defense, whether it be from athug entering your house or the gov., that is trying to impinge on your personal freedom of life liberty.
With you wanting to take my rights away, you sir/m'am are "impinging" on my rights.
Your personal dream of a Utopia where there are no guns, and no one hurts each other, and everybody respects each other is just that a dream. Greed is and self interest is in the heart of every human being, it how we use that, that makes us good or evil.
To be honest there really is no day-to-day need for semi-automatic weapons with/without high capacity mags. A lot of people like them generally because they are cool, fun to shoot. But the reason we have the need to be able to own one is that is because that is how our gov. is designed. Our right to own firearms keeps our gov in check. Atleast thats the way its designed. When looking at the bill of you need to take it into context of when it was written. Our foundign fathers understood the need to own firearms as the last defense against a tyrannical gov. Thats why it was one of the original 10 in our constitution. You can also see how important it was to them in their writtings.