Hubble Maps Matter of Universe, Finds Further Evidence of Mysterious Dark Energy

Other discussions of this topic have made the point that this could simply be gravity forces from things that we can't see. They went on to say that 'the universe' is defined as the volume of space from which we are able to detect light. This is not to say that there is nothing outside of that volume.

So, this could turn out ro be business as usual -- only we can't see the bodies causing this force.

Universe is expanding i.e it is occupying new space.What is the new space called and do the black matter and black energy already exist in the space to be occupied by universe?

You can't call it "expansion" if objects goes in opposite displacement. As you can see, the space doesn't expand following the trajectory.

Why any relativist can't give a logic explanation about what happens with Cherenkov radiation?

I totally agree with ford2go.

You (physicists) can continue spending billions smashing protons on this global recession. Maybe, someday you will get the feeling of success (of a moron).

"Universe is expanding i.e it is occupying new space.What is the new space called and do the black matter and black energy already exist in the space to be occupied by universe?"

A theorist wouldn't agree that the universe is expanding into space but rather expanding into or out of nothing(ness)and actually creating space as it expands. Nothingness is simply nothing: no space, no time, no energy, no matter, no light, no dark, or as a child might say, "no nothing." No one knows what dark matter or dark energy quite is yet but in light of the Big Bang concept, it would have been created in the initial explosion/expansion along with everything else in the universe.

ford2go aren't you kind of contradicting your statement? You're saying that "this could simply be gravity forces from things that we can't see" and "So, this could turn out ro be business as usual -- only we can't see the bodies causing this force." Isn't that the definition of dark matter and dark energy? Forces and mass that are created/caused by things we can't see.

I believe that they've observed its not just gravity because the forces created by dark energy and dark matter are much stronger than gravity. Gravity is a relatively weak force; just think how massive Earth is and only produces 9.8m/s2 acceleration. We've created much stronger forces.

Why does everyone always say that these discoveries can prove the theory of relativity and dark matter, what a bunch of baloney. If the universe is expanding, then it could be that there in no pull of gravity to hold it back, meaning all the mass is going to some other attraction, some other pulling effect. If gravity is so weak then why is it that the moon is still hanging around and why can it raise the water level on high tide?

There is a imperious need to establish a common consensus (like the so called man-made global warming) to pass the bill in a "fair" manner (doesn't matter if we use dogmatism in the process).

Newton laws works practically at planetary level, but what forces maintain groups of stars and galaxies together?

so our univverse is kinda like ink spreading out on a piece of paper

the Universe is breathing in and out just like us expanding and contracting it is a body like us we are small representations of a much larger body with no begining and no end.

Because with all the mass it has, the moon can't even pull us off the ground of the earth, or hold in an atmosphere. Compare that to a magnet on your fridge, that tiny little thing can pull a bunch of paper clips and win against -all the matter on earth- That's how strong electromagnetic forces are compared to gravity. Why is gravity so weak? Nobody knows, but some people think it's busy pulling on something we can't see. A "Dark" "Matter" of some sort.