Johannesburg Thieves Raid Traffic Lights for SIM Cards, Yielding Free "Burners"

Lucky for them the loss of apartheid has created the most dangerous place in the world. I doubt a few lost traffic lights are big on their list to worry about.

hmmm... Interesting. They could just encrypt the SIM call or use a frequency broadcaster. The SIM would then be of no use to the thieves.

@jefro

you know, i will not say for sure, but that comment sounds overwhelmingly discriminatory. you sir, do not belong on this site. :)

@voided_me_warranty

If you feel any part of my statement was incorrect, please feel free to post a rebuttal.

From Wiki.
"Statistics

A survey for the period 1998–2000 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries.[6] Total crime per capita was 10th out of the 60 countries in the dataset. ...

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According to government statistics, violent crimes such as murder and (reported) robberies decreased in 2007. Between 1994 and 2009, the murder rate reduced by 50% to 34 murders per 100 000 people.[11] Rape and hijacking rates, however, showed no signs of slowdown. Hijackings and cash-in-transit heists, particularly, have been shown to be on the increase. The incidence of rape has led to the country being referred to as the "rape capital of the world".[12]"

You welcome to put race into this and make your own conclusion.

Anyone who studies history, and pays attention tot he news would realize that Jefro is correct. Yes you can argue that he could've been more friendly in what he said, but nevertheless, his idea was correct. That area is very unstable and dangerous.

Actually Jefro, as much learnin as they allow hillbillies to have these days, the shear stupidity of your subliminally racist comments are quite ridiculous at best.
Using your logic, I suppose the loss of slavery is the reason for crime in our inner cities as well.
What a genius

Actually KamaKwz, your comment would qualify as more racist than any other here.

But despite the racist nature of your comments perhaps your correct. Hillbillies really may be uneducated. You create an interesting point worth exploring, that a comment, even if it is racist, does not automatically make it false. That's probably something society should discuss some day.

@jefro

Wiki's definition of apartheid is: a system of legal racial segregation enforced by the National Party government of South Africa between 1948 and 1993, under which the rights of the majority 'non-white' inhabitants of South Africa were curtailed and minority rule by white people was maintained.

The problem with your comment is one often made with statistics, in that you match the timing of one thing with another to define a causal relationship between the two.

The problems they face with crime can be a complex mix of all kinds of reasons, such as socio-economic ones.

Also, the records you refer to may or may not be "accurate", in the sense that although the statistics gathered now under its democratic rule can be taken to be reasonably representative; statistics gathered during the apartheid era may well have been very incomplete, as the authorities were the minority ruling white people and the majority of the population were the oppressed black population - in other words, they were probably not going to record black on black crime as much as crimes against whites.

@Americano

"The problem with your comment is one often made with statistics, in that you match the timing of one thing with another to define a causal relationship between the two."

Oh you mean like CO2 production, global warming, and the industrial revolution?

@timias

No, not like that, like comparing crime stats from the apartheid era with those after it. During the South African apartheid the colonial rulers were not interested in recording crimes within and against the oppressed majority, that is why I take issue with @jefro's comment, because he says "the loss of apartheid has CREATED the most dangerous place in the world" - is it really the case that giving the majority of the population in SA equal rights that has "CREATED" the problem, no, it is other factors such as poor governance, socio economic disparities, continuing segregation, access to education and jobs, the difference between equal rights in law vs equality of opportunity to escape poverty and make a better life for your family.

@timias,there is no casual relationship between co2, global warming, and the industrial revolution, only hard facts from nearly the entire scientific comunity, by your comment there is a casual relationship between you and idiocracy, along with the rest of your conspiracy theorist brethren, the article is not about global warming so please stay on topic in future posts and go jump in a lake and get some more brain freeze, oops, you would have to have a brain

"@timias,there is no casual relationship between co2, global warming, and the industrial revolution, only hard facts from nearly the entire scientific comunity,"

Wow, I am being called an idiot by someone who doesn't even know what causal relationship is, yet tries to use it in an insult against me. And can't spell "community either", but I digress. (Firefox has spell check BTW)
Sweet Sweet Irony!!! I love the forums.

Wow, you're so rabid in your belief that global warming is true, that you attack all who might disagree with you, and you read all that from one simple question. Perhaps some medication would help you, you sure as hell shouldn't own any guns. (Yes, I just implied you are mentally unstable). The fact that I am stating it this way is partly due to my attempt to mask my opinion, and thus not start a off-topic debate.

The theory of global warming exactly suggests based on statistical data that a causal relationship between CO2, and global warming exist, then attempts to draw a conclusion that it is man-made, because it seems to go up at the turn of the 1900 century (the industrial revolution).

My question neither infers my acceptance of the theory or my rejection.I just a noted similarity between this thread and GW. The data could be incorrectly collected in either case thus skewing the results, but no evidence has been presented either way just accusations. (BTW Wikipedia doesn't count as evidence)

So I count this thread a draw between Jefro and Americano, and DrChuck1 needs professional help, but you did make me chuckle.

Wow. Looks like i'll be joining the gang.