Texas Congressmen Call for Electromagnetic Pulse Guns on the Border

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The thing is they will still come across what needs to happen beciuse tho mesed up it needs to be done nothing else will leave a stronger message not to cross is put up motion sensord tazer gun that shoots a tazer cartrige at alien to diable ability to hop border if you think even tho they face trials and tribulation in their country it wont get better if all the good workers run over to the us if they stayed their and fot the curuption then maybe mexico could hit the map as a real country instead they use america as a tool for their gain are loss come here have a kid get citizen ship that way so they can work and send all our money to mexico instead of spending on the services give to them but they dont pay for i still dont get how a illegal imigrant can apply for wellfare thats perpostruruse have 7 kids and use them as paychecks it's razy people get coute up in the drama of feeling bad but sypathy doesnt keep you bills low you ability to state services open to you it when everything is given and returned .i say we get strict may even shoot to kill no matter how hanus this seems think nothing we do with out life threatening them has worked people still get across and theirs nothing we can do unless when ever it comes in the head of a illegal mexicon to hop the border they say forget that i even going to try i dont wont to die that will be the day cause they insult those who pay money and work hard to get citizenship while the person takes quick work how do you think that person who worked hard to get in feels that this other indiviual is here after all that hard work theirs a system for this stuff and it has to be balanced.if they fixed their country up this border issue wouldnt be a problem instead all the good workers and people that can change it for good come here thus leaving mexico stagnet you dont put a bandade on a oil leak it will eventually break.this is TrulyVisionary til next time cya.

note to others this is opiion and i hold no grudge s feel their struggle but i also feel the american struggle all humans are my brother and sisters i iwsh only everyone could be successful.have a great day.

TrulyVisionary, you need to learn to use paragraphs and spell correctly. I do not know if English is your first language, but what you wrote their is illegible.

On topic, EMP guns are sweet. One question though, will the EMP field permanently destroy the electronics they disable? I think the answer is yes, that sucks for the schmoe who accidentally gets hit with this.

That device designed against electronics equipment.
It may not work on cars/trucks because they have metal frame around all electronics.

They first need to show it can really stop all kinds of vehicles before they can suggest this idea.

Also if it can really work then all police departments would want it to stop car chasing incidents.

So if this is suitcase size and has a certain range of use, won't it also disable the border agents vehicles/electronic devices?
What about the drones? Don't want those to start falling out of the sky if it happens to get to close to the EMP...

Sounds interesting, but I want more details...

Well my big problem with this is what if they have an older car. EMP pulses only work to fry the computer electronics. IF they choose an older car it won't help at all.

@ Originquest: I hope these things have an electromagnetic "lens" (like a radar dish) to focus all the energy in one direction and avoid collateral damage.

Do you think they could build a miniature version to use on people who talk way too loud on their cellphones? Or on the jerks who text while driving...

@ trireme I think I remember seeing a DIY on here for a cellphone call disrupter that is about the size of a pack of cigarettes. Could have seen it somewhere else though....

@ trireme I think I remember seeing a DIY on here for a cellphone call disrupter that is about the size of a pack of cigarettes. Could have seen it somewhere else though....

@ a_good_american..
Shut up

@everyone else
How will we stop the dreaded donkey smugglers?

@ a_good_american.....just shut up, do you even listen to your self talk?

@ TrulyVisionar.......learn english

also I wonder if this can be used for other purposes? maybe taking out a car in a dangerous car chase, or disable an incoming missile

these immigrants coming over here; they're like those pre-colonial American settlers trying to escape religious persecution, oppression, etc. to make a new life.

Im sure if we knew most, if not all, of their stories (unless its like drugs or something) I think their would be very few of us "Americans" objecting to them risking their effing lives to get here

cops cant control their tasers, you expect them to exercise restraint with these nextgen weapons?

@a-good-american

I emphatically disagree with your opinion. How nice it is that you are here in this country where you are afforded the freedom to express opposition without fear of government persecution. Ie; the protests in AZ are organized and peaceful yet passionate. A simmilar organized passionate and peaceful demostration happened after Iran FIXED their elections. The Regime there did not tolerate this did they? in fact several people were killed. several harmless young women I believe. I saw the video of one. it was sad. I wish they could live here so that they could express there opinion without losing their life for it...like they did.

My recommendation to you a_good_american. Move to Iran and speak badly about that country.

You could change your name to a_good_Iranian

Oh one more thing:

Nici o ţară nu a dobândit mai multă putere şi a făcut mai mult bine cu el decât Statele Unite ale Americii.

No country has acquired more power and done more good with it than the United States of America.

what about a sonar fence like what the dharma iniative used in lost. a few smugglers frothing at the mouth and ears spurting blood would scare em away

@Crankyjoe - you can't argue with ignorance. If you just read his full username you'll see that he's ignorance incarnate with a dash of bitterness and jealousy.

@YigBong - Texas is the home of one of the only common sense politician left. The larger government grows, the less control the people have. If you want to understand how to make America great again, visit the link below.

www.ronpaul.com

Yes... We still have a statesman in congress. You can look at both sides of the political spectrum and see that while Ron Paul doesn't garner much support in Washington, he is untouchable by both sides. Reps and Dems in D.C. are both afraid to speak out against him because they want to minimize him and his ideas. His record is unassailable in that he's one of the only Congressmen to vote no to any bill that doesn't follow the constitution, or has earmarks/pork attached. Straw poll after straw poll show Paul to be the leading candidate for the Republican party for President, but the GOP has never backed him.

End American imperialism... It's time for the US to worry about the US. We are not the Worlds Police Force! Yes I was a Hawk when we invaded Iraq, I sucked down all the Koolaid that the Media served up, but 9 years was enough time to inform myself. We have troops in 135 countries, why? It's not to protect the US.

@a_good_american...

You are hereby granted honorary citizenship in these United States. Congratulations, please enjoy being a proud American citizen. p.s. (Don't forget the promise you made in the comment above)

Good example of why politicians should not try to design anything.
1. Coyotes (immigrant transporters) can modify vehicles to uae points and carbs -- EMP will do no good.
2, EMP device could easily interfere with unintended vehicles -- AND government vehicles. If government vehicles can be shielded, bad guys will shield theirs.

This is a conplex issue. Patrolling the borders is only a part of the solution. In any event, the EMP device seems to be a dumb plan for this situation.

Warning, this is sarcasim....

"Why not just put sniper towers every half mile with two snipers and a spotter with orders to shoot to kill? It would be alot less expensive to man 1'000 towers with 3'000 tropes then developing less than leathal means."

The truth is, America does not want to kill immigrants. We simply want immigration to be done legaly, this is for the protection of those immigrants. When done illegaly they put themselfs at risk, not from the U.S. but from the criminals that take advantage of them for proffit with no concerns for thier lives.

As for an EMP device, I'm unsure it would be effective for the simple fact that many crossing the Mexican/American boarder do so on foot. Its only after they cross the boarder that they get a ride, either from prior arrangment or circumstance.

@a_good_american

Being a Canadian, I just love how you hate on americans, cough-cough-sarcasm-cough. I also really enjoyed your arguments, such as "americans are evil" "...the champions of pain and suffering" "You live under oppresion" I really respect people like you who actually explain their thoughts or give examples, instead of just hating. It would be so nice if all the other "oppressed, theiving, paranoid" commenters actually gave me events that supported their thoughts.

OH WAIT!!!! was i being completely sarcastic!?! Just in case you still haven't figured it out, yes I'm being sarcastic, I just thought that someone with your level of ignorance and complete lack of logic might not catch on.

On second thought, Canada has a good reputation and as a citizen I would like to keep it that way, so I'm going to apologize for all my mean comments to you and leave it at this: Subscribers to Popsci are intelligent individuals, and your making yourself look like a fool if you think you will affect us.

I have enjoyed you as a source of amusement..

Binghams

a_good_american_is_a_dead_american "Good implosion!" "Criminals!"

Um, what? Are you capable of typing a coherent sentence? I have no idea what you mean when you say "Good implosion". I don't see anything imploding here. Is babblefish not translating right?

What about people that have pacemakers? That could be very bad. The former vice President could not visit the site for one.

I'm on the other side of your border, so my comment will probably be biased, but wouldn't it be more efficient to spend those huge amounts of money that the US is already spending in fences and related technology, in better ways of controlling employment authorization? Undocumented migration is a complex problem, but in my view, it comes to the same root that drug trafficking has; stop the demand, and the supply will stop. These violent procedures only create and/or encourage racism and more violence, like the murders in recent days of two Mexican citizens at the hands of border patrol agents. Every time I cross to the US I see beggars and homeless asking for a quarter to eat (so they say), but I rarely see anyone but mexicans or latinos working in american fields; so, stopping migration altogether doesn’t seem to be very wise but, it is your Country, your economy and your politicians (even though your decisions affects us all). I like technology (how else would I be a Pop-Sci reader?), but I think human invention should be mainly directed and applied towards enlightment and progress, not against fictional enemies, that are only looking for work, bringing hopes and dreams to this great Country. There are real enemies, but this guys are pointing their fingers in the wrong direction.

Interesting! I hope that everyone enjoyed the recent holidays that we've had.

Weapons like this would be very easy to abuse, and if used carelessly, would definitely have unintended consequences.

Am I surprised it only took 7 comments for a Hitler comparison to be made? Not really.

Are you shure they didnt call for miniguns, razor wire, and flame throwers.

Ahhhh Texas, how we love thee.

Balloons can work better than drones. They can hover for weeks or months, and can remain high enough they can't be shot down.

"All for your safety" Your all a bunch of skirt wearin sissy's and Don't be naive you know they will use this irresponsibly. Oh and i forgot "The Children" we must protect the children. What a bunch of sheep so willing to give up freedom for security.

@ fb36. The device works on cars, and it has already been used by some police forces.

An EMP device would be totally humane - it would shut down cell-phones, radios, video cameras, and motorized vehicles. No harm to people at all.

US to World. We have a controlled, legal way for you to come here to live and work. Nothing gives you the right to come here in any other way. If you do - then you are a criminal. Period.

Think our immigration laws are too strict?? Perhaps we should just have the same policies towards illegal immigrants that Mexico has? Would the illegals here like that better?

It really isn't all that difficult to shield a vehicular electrical system against electromagnetic pulses. Considering the value of smuggling drugs and illegal aliens, the smugglers will have their vehicles shielded or simply revert to old technology long before a system can be put in place. This sounds more like a politician trying to give a benefactor a foot in the door.

If you want to reduce trafficking across the Mexican border, there is a much simpler way, ship those caught to Alaska. Put them up there near the Arctic ocean where it gets really cold. They can always find work in the oil and gas industry. When word of that place gets back home people will think twice before crossing illegally.

pauletovar, thank you for you'r point of view.
Emplyment authorization? I've never had to get authorization to get a job! Do you mean something like the Arizona law that gives police the right to check for legal status? That went over well with the latino population. I don't see how having employers checking legal status will change anything, many do already. Its common for illegal immigrants have fake documents or completely false identities. Without a backgroung check it becomes imposible to determine who is a legal resident and who is not, and to do a background check on employees based on immigration issues would wind up being called racist!
As for our economy. I don't think that the U.S. is at fault for having a strong economy when dealing with illeagel immigration. Canadians don't cross over the boarder (which is less guarded) to find a job if they are unemployed.
The real issue is with the Mexican government and its economy.
I'm not going to pretend I know all that is wrong in Mexico, but it would seem that the government is weak and has failed to provide security to its people, not from invasion but from social issues. If the government of Mexico where to encourage a truly "free market" economy allowing foriegn investment equal oppertunity and reversing state sponsered monopolies the national economy would grow stronger and encourage the citizens to stay and look for jobs in Mexico. As for the Government? Thats up to you to figure out! As they saiy in Mexico. "Mexico is for Mexicans!"

It would be at a disadvantage vs. an older vehicle. It also cannot be claimed that it would not damage sensititve electronic equipment. Seeing as how border patrol is routinely confiscating electronics and NOT returning them, I suppose they wouldn't care about scrrambling or erasing your laptop if they use one of these at a checkpoint because someone got an itchy trigger finger.

We are trying to use a giant technological hammer to pound all the square pegs into round holes at our border. We are trying to solve problems of a human, social, and poltical nature with brute force. I do not welcome this glittering, barbed wire, high tech gilded cage we are turning our contry into.

If you will not the border article by this same magazine, even the creator of the border patrols Big Eye system admitted the orginal system failed because people were trying to solve human issues with technology and didnt even really know which problem they were trying to solve with what tech. I see the system he is building and his attemtp at expanding the border patrols powers into america itself to be highly inflamatory and improper.