• Created 11.7.2008 6 Posts

    "Some $13.4 billion of the rescue money will be available this month and next — $9.4 billion of it for General Motors Corp. and $4 billion for Chrysler LLC, the two auto giants that have said they could be facing bankruptcy soon without government help. GM is slated to receive the remaining $4 billion in loans after more money is released from the financial rescue account. Ford Motor Co. says it doesn't need federal cash now but would be badly damaged if one or both of the other two went under." http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081220/ap_on_go_pr_wh/meltdown_autos So according to this article, GM will receive a total of $13.4 billion. Well short of the $15 billion required to pay out.

  • Created 11.7.2008 6 Posts

    The payout specifically indicates that GM must receive $15+billion in bailout. It does not indicate that Chrysler or Ford will receive any of that money even though the initial $15 billion proposal was from the Big Three. If the Big Three receives $15 billion, then GM will not receive the necessary amount of money for this stock to pay out long.

  • Created 10.14.2008 11 Posts

    So clearly this prop should pay out long, like the PASSCRX stock. This stock is exactly the same as PASSCRX, except about batteries instead of gas mileage. Someone please close it long.

  • Created 3.20.2008 11 Posts

    So I suppose that makes better sense. But the other issue is the potential problem if DHS never makes a choice. Then what? It will never close? And what if it decides it will move Plum Island and then reverse it later? Wouldn't that then create another problem?

  • Created 3.20.2008 11 Posts

    "This proposition will pay out at POP$100 if the replacement location for the Plum Island Animal Disease Center is on the U.S. mainland. This proposition will close in or around October 2008, as soon as the DHS releases its choice." Since it's well past October 2008, and DHS has yet to make its choice, why hasn't this stock closed?

  • Created 2.24.2008 20 Posts

    Sometimes the supporting information should be consulted? As in the PASSCRX stock? If the information was consulted it would clearly have referred only to passenger cars. But the payout was interpreted literally and not in "the spirit of the proposition." "This proposition will pay out at POP$100 per share if Asus sells five million Eee PCs by the end of the year." I'm still not convinced about the argument that it only refers to 2008 sales even though the text mentions the 5 million mark for 2008 but only because the payout clause is ambiguous. I would like an official clarification from whomever is in charge with interpreting payout clauses.

  • Created 2.24.2008 20 Posts

    I'm getting technical but would like some clarification: Does 5 million units sold mean the total amount only during the year 2008? Or does it mean total from when the company first began selling EEEs? The payout clause is ambiguous in this respect. Also, the payout clause doesn't even state that it's the year 2008 so technically, it could be referring to any year and since all payouts will be interpreted literally...

  • Created 6.20.2008 3 Posts

    Can someone help clarify the meaning of "consumer version"? What exactly is a consumer version?

  • Created 8.5.2008 8 Posts

    Considering that this prop went live prior to the change in literally interpreting the payout, when the "spirit of the prop" was assumed including regarding the text as part of the payout criteria, the proposition implied that "outside southern California" meant somewhere else in the California or the US. I don't think just one person interpreted this prop this way especially if it was traded when it first went live so many months ago. However, now that the literal interpretation of the payout is the criteria, it would most certainly be clear what "outside southern CA" means.

  • Created 8.5.2008 8 Posts

    What the hell. I thought that "outside of southern California" meant in northern CA or any other state, not another country! What ever happened to "the spirit of the prop" agreement? It has since been replaced by getting technical.

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