Taylor: My apologies for any "PopSci" bashing. But nothing changes the fact that FEMA has a search section where you can look up the times they've acknowledged a "State of Emergency" for drought, and the last time California is in that search is 1977. Also, the postings in the DRYWST threads after mine show that the difference between when info "is" posted on a site, verses when info is obtained "as" posted on a site, is lost on those who aren't English majors. It's unfortunate, since they are only two-letter words. Regardless, I once said to you in chat that I was staying away from the forums because I do not like "Interpretive English", and I probably should have held myself to that. Going forward I shall. My only remaining decision is whether or not this type of thing will drive me away from PPX, as it has so many before me. ejcassel
Wow, didn't realize how many threads there were for this topic... My apologies for the duplicate posting, but here is my comment from the other DRYWST threads. I know, I haven't posted in months and now several in one day, but I'd like to finish the day without feeling dirty. -------------------------------- I am saddened by two things. 1) I find myself on the same side of something as Vulgarian. 2) I find that all these months later, the meaning of words in English still don't matter to PopSci. The payout criteria used the word "as" not the word "is". If the payout criteria had said that a state of emergency be declared and "is" posted on the FEMA site, then yes, it should be closing long. What the criteria actually says is that a state of emergency be declared "as" posted on the site, which indicates that it would need to be a declaration by FEMA, which it's not. You can do searches on the FEMA site for states of emergency for drought that FEMA has declared, the last one was in 2007 in Indonesia. The last one they declared in California was in 1977. Once again, PopSci will use peer pressure and the results of public education to change the meaning of what was written. ejcassel
The prop as written is short. Unfortunately, PopSci has been convinced to overlook the way it was written, in favor of a popular interpretation. Therefore I expect they will close the stock long. Probably today. ejcassel
My apologies for the duplicate posting, but here is my comment from the other DRYWST thread. I know, I haven't posted in months and now twice in one day, but I'd like to finish the day without feeling dirty. -------------------------------- I am saddened by two things. 1) I find myself on the same side of something as Vulgarian. 2) I find that all these months later, the meaning of words in English still don't matter to PopSci. The payout criteria used the word "as" not the word "is". If the payout criteria had said that a state of emergency be declared and "is" posted on the FEMA site, then yes, it should be closing long. What the criteria actually says is that a state of emergency be declared "as" posted on the site, which indicates that it would need to be a declaration by FEMA, which it's not. You can do searches on the FEMA site for states of emergency for drought that FEMA has declared, the last one was in 2007 in Indonesia. The last one they declared in California was in 1977. Once again, PopSci will use peer pressure and the results of public education to change the meaning of what was written. ejcassel
I am saddened by two things. 1) I find myself on the same side of something as Vulgarian. 2) I find that all these months later, the meaning of words in English still don't matter to PopSci. The payout criteria used the word "as" not the word "is". If the payout criteria had said that a state of emergency be declared and "is" posted on the FEMA site, then yes, it should be closing long. What the criteria actually says is that a state of emergency be declared "as" posted on the site, which indicates that it would need to be a declaration by FEMA, which it's not. You can do searches on the FEMA site for states of emergency for drought that FEMA has declared, the last one was in 2007 in Indonesia. The last one they declared in California was in 1977. Once again, PopSci will use peer pressure and the results of public education to change the meaning of what was written. ejcassel
I lost money on this one. I haven't been checking the forums lately because I'd like to believe that words in English actually mean what the dictionary says they mean rather than the variable translations of English you often see posted here. Despite that, Vulgarian and NapkinG were accurate on this. After the closing of CNGSTN I did further research and found that the Dept of Transportation has published a document on the their website called "Congestion Pricing: A Primer". I have not put a link as I don't want to be flagged as a spammer by PopSci. If you look up that document it lists multiple examples of existing Congestion Pricing in the US, including the one cited to close the stock. The last time a ruling was made that determined a stock's criteria had been met before the stock was even written there was a warning given (PASSCRX). However, there have also been times when proof of criteria being met was provided to admins including Taylor for months without the stock closing, to the point where it was discussed that maybe those example didn't count because they'd been going on before the stock was written (PLANECELL). Now this time there was no comment by admins and it closed in a couple days. Is one way better or "more fair" than the other? Probably not. Does it matter which way it's done? Not really. Is it important that it be consistently handled the same way every time? ABSOLUTELY. Despite all the technical issues that plague PPX, it's the issues created by the management of the system that create the harshest arguments in this forum. I'll not side with one way of doing it or another, but whichever way is chosen, it MUST be done that way consistently. ejcassel
A lot of people thought it closed the wrong way. Here is a copy of the Top 25 update for today off of PPXChat.com. You'll note that out of 25, 22 had it the other way, 2 had it right, and 1 didn't own it. Rank Member Worth Change 1 jodeman 11,334,400 (40,800) 2 chrisitux 10,423,900 9,000 3 erick99 9,865,300 (40,750) 4 drow 9,486,450 (41,250) 5 msholdenct 9,308,100 (40,750) 6 scoobytoth 7,903,940 (43,750) 7 RubiconTom 7,835,310 (42,000) 8 wookie1 6,745,000 (40,750) 9 vulgarian 6,212,440 (42,000) 10 chefboiaarni 6,208,520 (40,940) 11 royha3 6,014,700 (49,000) 12 ct711 5,831,480 52,750 13 ejcassel 5,666,380 (40,750) 14 JJACKHINX 5,562,930 (44,750) 15 m_novotny 5,340,340 (49,750) 16 dbsquared 5,148,960 (42,880) 17 mcmurray02 5,142,000 (48,500) 18 billcosby 5,009,800 (45,000) 19 barrt814 4,953,360 (41,250) 20 Kubie 4,917,510 (43,250) 21 Rayman 4,853,190 (48,250) 22 bcollins 4,630,790 (45,950) 23 Dakota 4,542,420 (49,250) 24 keno521 4,370,260 (42,750) 25 Pulchritudinous 4,369,250 54,250 I'm sure the trend continued throughout the active traders. Only those who looked in forum threads titled "Taylor Hengen" for updates on stocks called "HOTAIR" knew better. ejcassel (insert appropriate sarcastic tagline here)
This is going to end up being another "opinion" of what the words mean... Back with HGHTST the majority of traders thought that "comercially available" meant it had to be available commercially, not just provided to the Olympics. Now with HOTAIR the majorit of traders thought that "design change" meant they had to change the design, not just offer the latest versions of the CPU and HDD. ejcassel still refusing to do interpretive English.
It was determined Friday in the chatroom that you do actually own it. It your ownership does appear on the stock page. It also is counted as part of your total stocks owned on your portoflio. It is just doesn't actually appear in the portfolio. Since Taylor stated elsewhere that she would be gone until Monday we were trying to give her a chance to get back and work on today's IPO before hitting her with this. ejcassel
If I follow your idea correctly, it would be much like subscribing to someone's blog on myspace... I dunno if that would be much good in a forum where following the thread is usually critical to understanding the post. ejcassel you can unsubscribe to my comments at ppxchat.com
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