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@Gonazar: Nope, it's a dreamcast :D "The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine." -- Nikola Tesla

Oh, and before you say that it takes energy from the surrounding environment, clarify what energy, and don't say vacuum energy, because the searl effect device is not orientated properly to even produce the phenomenon that represents vacuum energy. Seriously, this is non-peer reviewed pseudo-science. Don't be dragged in by these crazy perpetual motion machines and conspiracy theories. Focus instead on your education and maybe one day you'll be able to make a real contribution, one that isn't a hoax designed to enthral the gullible "The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine." -- Nikola Tesla

@scubasdsteve87: If it's getting kids interested in science, it's worth the cost. In any case, it doesn't cost that much to put a helium balloon up there. Plus, they had sensors on the rig. They would have gathered data that could then be used to teach the children, and the fact that they had actively participated in the gathering of that data would have made it all the more interesting for them. "The present is theirs; the future, for which I really worked, is mine." -- Nikola Tesla

I've been trying to post this for a few days but apparently the IP of my work has been banned for spamming. I'm assuming it's because every time I try to post a comment, it seems to post twice :/ In anycase, it's a bit late so it doesn't cover the last couple of posts. No because the observed effects are only possible in one variation of the same model. That is, the metric expansion of this universe, as a finite construct. The observed gradual drop in CMB temperature can only be solved by applying this model, that's the way it is at this point in time. It might be that we don't have the whole picture, and that's what it's all about, adding to our models as new information becomes available. Considering the overwhelming evidence that completely supports the principles of mediocrity in a cosmological sense, as well as the accepted model of the universe.....well. And even if your somewhat right, maybe cosmology isn't about facts, maybe it's about probability, and a model that works. Even so there is no comparison between a probable model backed up by centuries of observation and scientific development and research (Peer reviewed extensively over the years might I add), and folk lore about a non-corporeal manifestation of consciousness. http://www.spacetelescope.org/bin/images.pl?embargo=0&viewtype=viewall&searchtype=freesearch&lang=en&string=hdf Hubble Deep Field....I'd say that's a pretty good argument for the Copernican Principal, and it's pretty too. New Wallpaper acquired :) As for your last comment, can you say "Fundamentalism"? How can such an archaic, unbending belief help us? I'll tell you how, it can't. All it can do is grind our race to a screeching halt, hidden behind your god figure. Need I remind you that more than a few scientific pioneers were considered enemies of the church? We, as humans, have been given a wonderful gift. That gift is the ability to understand and comprehend the universe around us. We have the imagination to transcend the bounds of our design. We no longer need Religion. Its purpose has been served, we are ready to come to the realization that we are alone, threes no one watching over us, but, we are human. We have seen the stars, we have been in space, we are starting to understand the workings of galaxies, and we are starting to understand the workings of subatomic particles. You say Science solves nothing? But you so wrong, Science solves everything! Disease, poverty, fear, maybe one day, even death. Science can solve all these problems. You know what can't solve anything? Hiding behind your god figure, to scared to leave the safety of his illusionary wing to venture a look at the marvels of the universe, to stuck in an archaic belief that's purpose has long been served to experience the wonders of progress. Faith in god doesn't cure world hunger, faith in god doesn't cure terminal illness, faith in god doesn't allow us to make leaps and bounds every single day for the good of man kind... Even if there is a god.....don't you think he'd like to see his children grow? Grow into something more than blind sheep following the shepherd. Maybe he knows we need to forge our own path, maybe there hasn't been a return of the son of god, simply because they want us to find our own way in the universe...I don't know about you, but I would be horribly upset if my daughter spent her life in search of me, not experiencing the miracles that nature shows us every single day. Because when it comes down to it. We are much more than the sum of our parts, we are much more than a natural evolutionary state, oh yes, we are much more than that...we are human. I don't know whether there is a god...what I do know, is that I don't want to worship any deity who would stop us from reaching as far as we possibly can. Be that to the stars, or right down into our own construction.

No because the observed effects are only possible in one variation of the same model. That is, the metric expansion of this universe, as a finite construct. The observed gradual drop in CMB temperature can only be solved by applying this model, that's the way it is at this point in time. It might be that we don't have the whole picture, and that's what it's all about, adding to our models as new information becomes available. Considering the overwhelming evidence that completly supports the principles of mediocrity in a cosmological sense, as well as the accepted model of the universe.....well. And even if your somewhat right, maybe cosmology isn't about facts, maybe it's about probability, and a model that works. Even so there is no comparison between a probable model backed up by centuraries of observation and scientific development and reasearch (Peer reviewed extensivley over the years might I add), and folk lore about a non-corporeal manifestation of conciousness. http://www.spacetelescope.org/bin/images.pl?embargo=0&viewtype=viewall&searchtype=freesearch&lang=en&string=hdf Hubble Deep Feild....I'd say that's a pretty good arugment for the Copernican Principal.