It's one of the simplest energy-storage devices known to man: The spring. Think of how a jack-in-the-box keeps hold of the mechanical energy it takes to compress that clown into the box, releasing it only when the weasel song reaches its climax. And that energy storage is a long-term proposition. The clown could likely sit, poised in that box in grandma's attic for 100 years, until some joker comes along, cranks the handle and, POP!
Working in the nano scale, you won't be compressing anything by 1 meter, but then, you are referring to the force required. Being theoretical, I expect they still have to create the compression and the energy harnessing decompression nano-spring technology. Perhaps something along the lines of electro-magnetic or piezoelectric mechanisms, or whatever forces work in the nano-scale. What if this technology gets added into road surfaces and uses the weight of traffic to compress the little nano-springs. Then they decompress, creating electricity and get recompressed by more traffic... Making them into nano-spring generators!
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
Time: you haven't made any spelling mistakes, not to mention grammer mistakes, in this forum? Your statement: "BSTUR1 your something else" Don't you know the difference between your (possessive) and you're (contraction of you are?) Let me explain, in this case you should be using you're, as in "BSTUR1 you are something else". No wonder you don't recognize or care about his other mistakes... If he has 3 engineering degrees, then how come he did not know that "infrared" was not listed correctly in his abstract until I pointed it out? Tell me that. You want to talk about the topic... let me start with some other problems that he needs to overcome: like expecting Nlight to create the 80% efficient laser for his beaming technology, the abstract was from 5 years ago, and he says it was being developed- where is it (there is no link to the newspaper article)? Even if they do develop the 80% efficient laser, turning that device into a system that can pump megawatts of energy through it for extended periods of time would take much further R&D. Expecting an engineer to turn the beam off when a plane would be flying through it? A plane may cross the beam in 2-10 seconds, and there is going to be a warning that requires human intervention to shut the beam off? What do you do with the mega amounts of electricity for those 2-10 seconds, you can't just turn a switch off, count to 10, and turn it on again. If it were even possible, of course it would have to be an automated system, he should not even have mentioned engineer interaction. A human in that loop would be a big mistake. He thinks that 4 positioning lasers from the ground station and 4 Halls Effect thrusters are going to be good enough to position the satellite absolutely motionless in comparison with the uplink and downlink sites? It will probably need a system akin to that which stabilizes and aims the Hubble. Including double or triple redundancy of the systems, gyroscopes and thrusters. Doesn't even mention the enormity of developing the software to run the systems, or will it run "Windows XP For Space"? (watch out for the Blue Screen of Death-ray...). And do you aim the whole satellite with a fixed mirror as he states, or would the mirror be on a gimbal system? Probably the latter to allow for fine tuning in the aiming of the beam... in 2004 he had expected to get that satellite flying within a few years... when the satellite should be the last phase of the project, after creating the beaming and the monochromic solar cell technologies and extensive testing on the ground, mountain tops, and probably from high altitude ballons, long before ever launching any prototype satellite. Both technologies are going to take probably a decade to develop and perfect before you would build a parabolic reflector that can work in space and with the energy beam spectrum that gets developed. If it was that "easy" to make the beaming and solar cell technologies in his required 80% efficiencies, they would already exist.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
Not much to do, huh Time? Rib2 has updated his abstract page, fixing the errors I mentioned and adding the pics. Sorry for my typos, I guess I should Preview Comment before posting, but I'm not trying to convince people to invest in my idea, as Rib2 is. Timemachine, you still don't get it. Making the mistake once is a typo, twice, well maybe still. But each of 16 times that he meant to type infrared, it was spelled "inferred". That is not a typo and if he had bothered to proof read the abstract and he was actually educated about the electromagnetic spectrum, he should have realized that mistake, because there is no such thing as "inferred" any where in the spectrum. So if he had proofread his abstract after posting it (wouldn't you?), and he actually knew about the electromagnetic spectrum, he should have realized his 16 mistakes. By leaving them all spelled "inferred", he makes it seem that he doesn't know anything about the electromagnetic spectrum, and just copied and pasted the info, without any real understanding. Very ironic that Rib2 did not know that "inferred" was an incorrect term, as the infrared spectrum is the basis for his energy beam.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
Sorry timemachine, I did read it and couldn't understand what inferred spectrum or inferred light energy meant. Didn't you realize that it was incorrect? Or did you think that there was something actually called "inferred energy" in the spectrum? Your presentations have to be perfect if you are trying to convince people to invest billions of dollars to develop your ideas. Or where you going to invest in it??? If you don't correctly identify the part of the electro-magnetic spectrum that you are planning to use to create your power transferance beam, how could anyone believe that you could do it? His website and abstract had childish mistakes, like he had copied and pasted paragraphs from other sources and then ran spell check (that's probably what turned infrared into inferred). I figured that he was some high school kid who saw the episode of Star Trek where they bounced a phaser of a star's coronashere to destroy their enemy and turned the idea upside down, to reflect beamed energy off of a satellite and back. I'm just a literalist who knows a lot about a lot of things and plays the devil's advocate at times. I'm no more of a jerk than you are, get over yourself. It was only my idea to point out his screwups. RIB2 was on here hawking his "ideas" and his website, that opens him up to scrutiny. I scrutinized, get over it. If he can't handle criticism and rejection than he shouldn't be trying to peddle his ideas in a public forum.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
Rib2, glad to see you took my criticisms of your web page and abstract to heart and updated your web pages with much more correct information, and pictures! Sorry if I came off sounding like a jerk. Now it looks like you know what you are talking about. Best of luck! Hey Timemachine, I bet he took it easy on me because my criticisms of his website and abstract info were valid. They looked like something thrown together without actually knowing the technologies behind what was being proposed. Otherwise he would not have made changes to address the problems that I pointed out.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
I thought this was a public forum to exchange ideas and questions? Timemachine did you read the abstract? If you want to find out more about his idea read his abstract it pretty much spells it out. Just pointing out mistakes and asking questions. These are questions that anyone reading his abstract should be asking. And he should be able to answer. What is inferred spectrum or inferred light energy? It is mentioned a few times in the abstract. I don't find that term even in wikipedia. Yet his theories of turning energy into light beams and back again seem to rest on it. If he means infrared spectrum and infrared light energy, well that means something in the electromagnetic spectrum. Anybody who has studied the electromagnetic spectrum knows infrared which is on the opposite side of the visible light spectrum from ultraviolet. As I said I can't find a definition for inferred spectrum or inferred light energy.... And it is another idea, not really a better idea than the spaced based solar. If you want to find out more about spaced based power generation watch the Discovery Project Earth show "Orbital Power Plant". I really do wish RIB2 the best and hope he finds the many answers to all of the questions that face his ideas. Because if he can create his vision, he will have brought a few fantastic breakthroughs to the world of science. The energy to light beam laser technology, the monochromatic PV Solar cell beam receiving technology, and the beam focusing, aiming, and reflecting technology. Those will be monumental scientific advances, because those technologies do not currently exist. I just think that he is overestimating the efficiencies that can be created in his systems and underestimating the difficulties in development, and the cost, for a viable system, let alone what the total cost for R&D will eventually be.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
Hey RIB2, when your abstract says "inferred spectrum" do you mean infra-red spectrum? Well you are talking about light and I can't find any mention of the "inferred spectrum" in the electromagnetic spectrum. It's like you were taking notes in class but never read the textbook, or is it some other special meaning? Oh and I just watched the Discovery Project Earth show "Orbital Power Plant" about the research into beaming solar energy through from space. From inflateable fresnel lenses to boost sunpower to the multijunction solar cells to the microwave beaming. The microwave experiment was able to detect microwave energy at a distance of 60 miles, the thickness of our atmosphere. This experiment didn't turn the microwave back into useable energy, just showed that it could be detected at that distance. But you'll be using mono-chromatic light waves, bouncing them off parobolic mirrors with pinpoint accuracy to theoretical solarcells... Without even knowing if you can accurately bounce those theoretical, finely focused light waves off of mirrors in space. It would seem that you have some heavy R&D projects to bring about several breakthrough technologies that you will need to create, to get this idea off the ground. While you may be able to ride on the backs of some current projects for some of your technology, those results will have to be purchased or brought into your labs and perfected. To go along with some technologies you'll just have to create from scratch... And you don't know that it should be spelled "infrared spectrum"... Dream on! Best of luck to you and your investors!
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
I apologize but that's what I see, I mean the graphics are nice and he's taken some ideas that I've seen elsewhere and placed some nice twists on them (pretty much by placing the ideas in space and on Mars) although there's nothing wrong with that. Patents Pending (or granted) doesn't mean that an idea is able to be brought to reality in a cost effective manner. But that's why I said to dream on. Any designer/inventor has to have thousands of dreams before some, if any, come to fruition. So yes, keep dreaming! But from my very limited point of view, they are grandiose schemes that would work well in science fiction novels. But in our current reality, not so well. Take the 9 summary points of action to "make this happen" rather simplistic without any gauge of the enormity of most of those tasks. Then # 9. (a copy of #1) should probably read "Find a cost effective way to turn light waves back into electricity." Which isn't mentioned... I guess #5 would be the not so trivial part of developing a system that can accurately focus and aim the uplink beam to the reflector satelite and position the reflector to aim the beam back to the receiver wherever that reciever is. As well as being able to keep the footprint of the beam very focused so much of the energy does not miss the satellite and then again miss the receiver on its' return trip. I mean the footprint of a laser beam spreads out the further away the "target" is and this energy beam technology hasn't even been created yet. Although there was that experiment in the Pacific between a couple of islands which is a very primative start. There will be enourmous amounts of R & D to figure out this component. RIB2 is stating that this system could be in place of traditional power transmission lines from remote areas with micro-generating systems. To replace power transmission lines, this might work as a line of sight system within our atmosphere, I mean that is basically how communications microwave towers work (although they receive, amplify and retransmit their microwaves - instead of reflecting). With the sending, reflecting, and receiving units located on solid ground as opposed to bouncing beams off of a satelite floating in space. If money was no object, yes this would be conceivable with several decades of developement, but RIB2 is saying that the cost of this system would compete with power transmission lines for hundreds of remote micro-generating operations... Or do you think those problems are trivial, Timemachine? I completely understand, all too well, every detail that is on the "Shine Innovation" website and I hope that he continues to dream and design.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
No, sorry but what I saw on your site I had seen and learned of elsewhere. Most of what I saw was by no means original, just cute designs and ideas, with some interesting twists. They could work in some science fiction stories, but ... as I said dream on. Like getting thousands of your reflecting satellites into space to all hold still and recieve, amplify and redirect energy beams from micro-generating plants to various points all over the earth... Not quite as easy as relaying radio transmissions. Not to mention building and placing all of those micro-generating plants and energy to beam/uplink units, and the earth based receiving units. Not that it can't be done, but the cost of sending the power output of 1 micro-generator would be prohibative. Now if you were sending the power output of a couple of Hoover Dams, and then distributing it... 1 uplink and multitudes of receiving units, maybe worth it. But in the long run can it compete with the cost of individual home solar installations with storage? I mean if your system could be engineered lets say in a dozen years... by then Solar electricity and it's storage will be affordable by every homeowner. Yes your idea may be doable, but very costly and logistically prohibative.
Japan has serious plans to send a solar-panel-equipped satellite into space that could wirelessly beam a gigawatt-strong stream of power down to earth and power nearly 300,000 homes.
rib2, after looking over more of your site I just see that you are a dreamer and regurgitator of the ideas of others. Well except for that reflecting energy beams schtick, I haven't seen that yet. Probably because the turning of small amounts of waste energy into power beams idea isn't all that feasable. Your designs and ideas are not grounded in the reality of physics and engineering. But hey, dream on unfettered by reality, you might get lucky.
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