• The Environment

    Human Cause, Global Effect

    By Posted on 5.14.2008 29 Comments

    Retreating glaciers. Melting permafrost. Off-kilter bird migrations. Few of these reports are news to anyone following the global warming beat. Yet the first effort to gather thousands of scientific findings into a cohesive narrative of cause and effect has been published in the journal Nature.

    5.16.2008 at 07:04am - Comment by MichaelS

    "First - carbon dioxide is consumed by plants, so it will not "remain in the atmosphere" for long." The duration that CO2 remains in the atmosphere is 100 years on the low end. http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00296.htm "So? None of this means that humans are to blame." So, global temperatures rise over a very short period of time with no identifiable natural cause while concurrently an atmospheric greenhouse gas reaches its highest level in 400,000 years, and your foundation for inaction is a reliance on coincidence. "Out of equilibrium of what?" Equilibrium is a balance of forcings versus reactions, a balancing of the scales. This balance can be found with 5 oz on each side (for instance a very cold condition) or 5 tons (for instance a very warm condition). Historically, shifts in the balance occur over hundreds and thousands of years, not decades. "Now tell me this: how are we causing the temperature rise on Mars?" Hopefully, you realize that Mars is a completely different planet with vastly different atmospheric composition, surface conditions, orbital patterns, and so on. In other words, Mars could be warming at the same time as Earth, cooling at the same time, or going in completely opposite directions, all with equal validity. Even the article you link does not attribute Martian warming to solar variance. ___________________________ Fresh Air. The Scent of Pine. http://scentofpine.wordpress.com

  • The Environment

    Human Cause, Global Effect

    By Posted on 5.14.2008 29 Comments

    Retreating glaciers. Melting permafrost. Off-kilter bird migrations. Few of these reports are news to anyone following the global warming beat. Yet the first effort to gather thousands of scientific findings into a cohesive narrative of cause and effect has been published in the journal Nature.

    5.15.2008 at 05:51pm - Comment by MichaelS

    It is not arrogance to conclude that climate change could be caused by human actions, quite the opposite. The hubris is found in the belief that the actions of mankind are without consequence. As for logic over emotion, does it make more sense to believe that a greenhouse gas that is emitted by the industrial activities of mankind in ever increasing amounts year after year and that can remain in the atmosphere for hundreds of years could influence global temperature or that there exists a conspiracy of thousands of scientists around the world who forge peer-reviewed scientific studies and data in the ideological pursuit of global government and funding protection? The Earth has not cooled over the last decade. Plot temperature data from any of the major sources from 1999 to the present and a continued warming trend is revealed. It is not coincidental that NASA GISS noted 2007 as the second warmest year on record, and this during a solar minimum and without the El Nino conditions that pushed 1998 to record levels. Solar activity has not increased over the last 30 years and cannot account for warming during that time. Increased temperatures and CO2 levels have thrown the biosystem out of equilibrium, and it is no surprise that the biosystem is responding. ___________________________ Fresh Air. The Scent of Pine. http://scentofpine.wordpress.com



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