How Chinese Hackers Infiltrated The New York Times

This has gone for so long, with such great quantity of being hacked daily by China, we need to CUT the internet communication ties with China and only allow the bare necessity of communications.

My life does not exist with China in mind and if communications with China was gone, I would not miss them.

Bu-bye internet communications from CHINA.
Who needs YOU.

I agree with Robot. No internet for China.

The internet being a happy freedom of communication place of ideas does not work, if we have back-stabbers.

It is time to eject the back stabbing country of China from the freedom of exchange of ideas.

Their goal is to break us, steal from us in monies or ideas.
Who needs that?!

China should be denied ANY Internet access. It's all just a country of hackers and crooks stealing software, selling software, stealing ID's, stealing military secrets, etc.,etc., etc., etc., etc.

Im sure there is a few good ones, besides, how better to topple a regime then by information fed to the masses?

Hacking articles of China to the USA:

www.dailytech.com/NSA+China+is+Destroying+US+Economy+Via+Security+Hacks/article24328.htm

www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/12/12/u-s-security-analysts-chinese-based-hacks-can-be-traced-to-12-govt-backed-groups/

www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=13&articleid=20130131_13_0_BEIJIN953626&allcom=1

www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9dba9ba2-5a3b-11dc-9bcd-0000779fd2ac.html#axzz2Ja4uHBdK

www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/The-Secret-ChinaUS-Hacking-War/

www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/01/31/the_people_s_republic_of_hacking_china_new_york_times

money.cnn.com/2011/07/28/technology/government_hackers/index.htm

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2211230/Chinese-government-hacks-White-House-office-charge-nuclear-launch-codes.html

www.dailytech.com/China+Continues+to+Gleefully+Hack+US+as+Govt+Efforts+Sunk+by+Partisanship/article24149.htm

www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/business/global/02hacker.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

www.npr.org/2012/02/18/147077148/chinas-hacking-of-u-s-remains-a-top-concern

online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304259304576373391101828876.html

www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2012/July/Pages/StoppingtheChineseHackingOnslaught.aspx

www.zdnet.com/blog/security/richard-clarke-china-has-hacked-every-major-us-company/11125

GOOGLE seach China hacking the USA and the list is gigantic and happens daily!

LOL @ Robot -

I agree with you in principle, however I'm not sure how cutting off the internet to the country that lends us all of our money, manufactures all of our goods and ships them all over here would work out so well for us... how would we submit our orders to their factories? How would their banks direct deposit billions a year in loans to us??

Obviously I speak more tongue in cheek (with a touch of sarcasm) but I think there's at least a touch of truth there.

jbmshasta,

First China does not lend us "ALL" our money. Two we are a country to ourselves and just because we owe China money, do not give them permission to take advantage of us. If anything we could simply say, if you do not stop attacking us via the internet we VOID our debts with you. How is that as an incentive for China to stop the bu#lsh#t, hacking. lol.

IT Administrators can limit\not close it all together the access of one countries communications into our country. This is a very real possible ability.

Perhaps China might stop shipping their cheap items to USA and we be annoyed for awhile. But then business would be created in USA to fill the gap, creating jobs. Say thats a great idea. Let CUT TIES with China!!!! YEA BABY!

Obvious the USA has debt issues, and cutting ties with China would be technically a good idea, legally a good idea and yes politically a good idea, while reducing the USA debt. It’s all GOOD!

The end result: reduction of hacking from China, less USA debt and creating more business and jobs in USA. WoW this gets better and better as I think about it... NICE!

And we are punishing a known bad guy country that not only hacks the USA, but has a reputation of hacking everywhere else in the world too.

Oh, how many babies and dogs have been posion by their products too.

In their country they have the one baby law and the common social status is to dump the female babies like trash.

Life with out China for the USA is a great idea, bu-bye!

I like to give a phone call to China.

Ring.... ring.. Hello.
Hello China.
Yes.
You know that debt and interest we pay you China.
Well, we are not paying for 1 year, until you
prove all the hacking is stop to the USA.

Now China, go police you own country from hacking
the USA and the world or no more interest to you.

Oh China, it has been descuss to void the whole debt
(principle and interest) we owe you all together, simply because you have hacked us for an extreme amount of years.
We will void all of it, but that is in descussion for now.

Bu-bye, click....

@Robot. I know the phone thing is a joke, and it goes without saying that it's probably far more nuanced than that. I was talking with a co-worker today about this, he has a friend in the FBI, who basically said that non-internet, flesh and bone spying, happens all the time, all over the world, with alarming regularity. He said that spy's, both government and corporate are constantly trying to steal data from other countries. We have them, 'they' have them, it's a never ending game. If 'in-person' spying is that prevalent, hacking, which is far less risky, must be rampant. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying because we do it they are justified in doing it to us, but at what point is it worth starting a war over?

intrepidDesign,
I am not suggesting war.

I am also not suggesting taking to dinner the guy who came over and broke your computer\bank account\life too.

Tolerance breeds acceptance, possibly encouragement of behavior, ya know.

For all the illegal copies of Microsoft Windows in China, we have Microsoft send out an off switch, lol.

Perhaps that will gain some attention.

Ballmer: 9 out of 10 copies of Windows in China are pirated

www.neowin.net/news/ballmer-9-out-of-10-copies-of-windows-in-china-is-pirated

It would be heavenly to turn off, all the pirated windows in China, ROFL..... ha ha snort.

15 comments, 10 of them by Robot.

@Robot Cutting off internet communications with a country the size of China would lead to war, IMO. Believe me when I say that there is a TON of stuff about China that pisses me off, hacking, currency manipulation, corporate espionage, human rights, etc, but putting up a fire wall that blocks all Chinese IP addresses would be extremely volatile.

intrepidDesign,
Hello, there are variations of what I am saying that maybe practical and positively influential to reduce the hacking. These are just suggestions from a person, who is annoyed, but there can be REAL solutions implemented and not just to be cowardly tolerance, boo hoo, we owe China some money; they have the right to hack us to death.

Ummm...how about, not opening emails on your work computer that you don't recognize? That's a start. Americans are inherently dumb and that's what criminals are able to leverage. We leave our ipads/ipods in our cars at night and complain when they are stolen. We jog in parks late at night and wonder why we are mugged.

We just need better software. Every email is pre-opened on a tiny virtual machine then checked before it's allowed to continue on its merry way. Sometime in the not too distant future, I'm sure something similar will be implemented.

"So...you opened up your non work email on your company laptop and clicked a link from a friend showing a video of cute kittens, is that correct?"

"Well yes, I thought it would be funny"

"And your personal email is locked out normally but you begged for it to be open by wearing a cute skirt in front of the IT Director right?"

"Uh huh."

"TERMINATED"

2,000 years ago when a Chinese emperor died, those of his wives that did not bare him children had their throats slit and were buried with him along with all the slaves he owned.

Social Persecution? I would call that progress.

Sometimes a bully or giant hits with no consequences.
So then they continue hitting and bullying.

Yes you might be smaller than the giant. Your response just needs to be large enough to create a consequence for the giant loses interest in the desire to bully or hit you again.

You do not have to create a war, to be influential.
But you do have to stand up for yourself!

@ Robot; Maybe you have been missing the part that doesn't get talked about. We are in their systems too, bigtime. Pot and kettle. Yeah, their materials grades and standards do suck, but think of all the great gifts our processing and manufacturing has given them. We taught them how our tycoons get paid for doing any damn thing they want while destroying what they shouldn't be able to so they can 'provide' something or other that they pay nothing for. The truly smart ones know that they can get paid as much or more when things go bad. So your suggestion is that because they are learning to play ball, we take our ball and run home? How the hell do you know whether or not I have friends or family or acquaintance in China that I might want to use my RIGHT of free speech to talk to in any damn mode I choose?

@ intrepidDesign; Firewall that blocks all China IP's. Yeah, that takes me two key strokes to beat. And it would only cost us another few hundred billion that China would have to loan us.

This sort of reciprocity is why we don't have investigative journalism anymore. Risk of retaliation, finding some names leaning on some people. Far more profitable for a news outlet to just play first to market with company press releases.

Schmidt book, Post attacks spotlight Made in China hacks

After New York Times, Wall Street Journal report suspected Chinese hacks on their systems, Washington Post says its computers were hit too. Also: Eric Schmidt weighs in on China threat in new book.
~ by Edward Moyer | February 2, 2013 12:55 PM PST

news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57567302-83/schmidt-book-post-attacks-spotlight-made-in-china-hacks/