Obama Ordered Stuxnet Virus, Part of Organized Cyberattacks Against Iran

why do you feel the need to report (regurgitate) on this classified business regarding the National Security of our country and the rest of our world? there are things that should be kept secret, for a reason.

Another reason to believe that USA is a terrorist organization.

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"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours"

- Stephen Roberts

Well all of us are not part of "our country" what ever that is.
"our country" does not own PopSci, and PopSci is read by people all over the world.
We are under no obligation to keep secrets for "our country"
especially when "our country" is infecting our networks with viruses.
If you want the world to have your back, then you must have our.

metals99,
PoPSCi is just reporting, what is already being reported today or recently across other media channels. Now some countries may treat this as an act of War.

And some countries, who pickup and reverse engineer the Stuxnet virus, could use it against us and other countries.

Keep in mind, there has been a lot of reports on our own media if the weakness of our infrastructure and it vulnerability to virus\hacking attack.

This situation makes me feel as if we toss a Pandora box into a den of hungry chaotic lions, enabling them with sharper teeth, fangs and a way to escape and cause more damage world wide.

By the way, there is a newer, bigger program on the loose of the internet now, called "Flame". Research this too. It is not clear of the creator of this program, but it is said to be 20 times bigger in size, than Stuxnet.

I understand PopSci did not initiate this report - it sounds like New York Times did. I strongly believe in the First Amendment, but telling an enemy that an attack is coming? Some would call that treason.

SteelyJoe22,
Ever hear a parent warn to a child, behave yourself or else...

It is the same thing here. Our government is putting the pressure on and making this reprimand thump on the head obvious to mean business: "Stop making ready for nuclear weapons IRAN!".

Now the USA is making the warning louder, by taking ownership of the Stuxnet program.

metals99 said, "why do you feel the need to report (regurgitate) on this classified business regarding the National Security of our country and the rest of our world? there are things that should be kept secret, for a reason."

I know that, you know that, most with common sense know that. But we are talking about mainstream media, who have taken it upon themselves to "report the news" even at the expense of our national security.

In the world of ever changing technology is already ancient history. It was discovered in June 2010, who know how long it was active before that. I honestly don't think we would have found out about this if the government didn't want everybody knowing. Just imagine what kind of malicious software the US has now.

Too bad he won't blame this victory handed to him on Bush.

I see the Lawyer in Obama coming out clearly. If he achieves well in this pressure against Iran, he will take credit. If this pressure goes sour, he then defers blame to Bush.

Also another reason it is being made public now, if the Iran’s clearly identify the source of the Stuxnet program, it is a show of strength by the USA to take ownership of the program, rather than deny ownership.

The very great thing of Obama is his ability as a public speaking and to captivate an audience with popular ideas to gain votes.

The down side to Obama is he is not a real leader, has no real solutions of his own, that are practical and get can get pass into law.

His only true achievement in history was to be voted in as a minority President, thereby opening the public view of our future better elected officials!

I have been working full time since age 14, paying taxes, I am a veteran and patriot and the best my country will offer me is no future social security and Medicare benefits, with a wimpy excuse the baby generation is causing the problem and not the true answer our Politian’s years ago with President Johnson and thereafter, spent off the excess funds for these programs.

Hmmm... I always wondered were IT came from. Guess it's sorta good it's ours.

Maybe this will screw with N. Vietnam's head for a while.
Dunno... Just a thought.
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I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.

Artex,
Remember that rocket they launch recently. Was it a failure on their part or was it induced from an outside source. Hmmmm, kind of makes you think!

@ Robot

Flame is larger in size but not nearly as sophisticated. Its just a bunch of older malware thats been cobbled together: (turns on the computer's mic and camera, etc.) mostly basic stuff and nothing impressive.

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In general if PopSci, NYT, and others are reporting this its only because the information was declassified. I highly doubt it was leaked, and if so, it was intentional. Perhaps to jolt Iran into specific action-- I hope that is AWAY from and not TOWARDS war ... its a calculated risk.

My assessment however is towards war. Iran-US relations have been in a downward spiral for a long time. We've done some things that are far more aggressive than this, but I feel like any obvious direct action only moves us closer to all out war with Iran. War with Iran turns Syria very sour towards us, pulling Russia and by extension, China into the fray. It won't be pretty. And with Europe's weakend economy and other tensions surruounding the Eurozine crises, it may be the perfect season for war... perceived weakness in Europe and the US, growing economies in countries we've generally maintained tense relationships with, and oil (money) at the center of it all...

Even though the chances are that this is correct, how can we believe that this is true. This is probably only a case of speculation of a reporter and reporters are known to lie or go off a simple hunch just to get an article written.

QuantumLeaper,
Multiply sources reported this article and the White House and Israel admitted it being the source of the Stuxnet. POPSCI reporting now, is in fact a little late.

Just GOOGLE: " Who created Stuxnet " and read all the articles.

Metals99, probably because it's an act of war that is NOT passed by congress. Therefore making it unconstitutional.

That's kind of a big deal

Wow. went under handle "Olympic Games"...I wonder what the "pole vault" does. Hopefully turn of traffic cameras.

Can someone please explain to me when the United States, as a sovereign nation, became able to tell another sovereign nation what kind of technological developments it could invent, produce, or purchase? Please tell me at what point our nation became the unconstitutional world's police because I'd like to find the guy responsible. And please, don't regurgitate that "we've got to save Israel" bullshit. Israel is a sovereign nation and can take care of itself. In fact, their Prime Minister has been often quoted as saying that he doesn't want U.S. involvement in his nation's affairs.

3dd656 is right. This was an aggressive provocation of war if not an act of war in itself and it was never approved by Congress by a declaration of war on Iran. Any U.S. Citizen or gov't employee who helped carry out this act should be charged with treason and hung. No joke. Even the President himself. For a man that claims to be a constitutional scholar, he doesn't seem to care one bit about the Constitution and the limits of power that it sets.

Oh well, whatcha gonna do now that we live in a total police/nanny/welfare state?

considering the ramifications of not using stuxnet is far worse. instead of bombs we went with a much less lethal attack. now we have a race for quantum computing. if we develop the first scalable quantum computer we become more powerful than ever. our quantum algo will give us tech never before seen. there will be no encryption we cant break and no metamaterial we cant build. stuxnet will look like a childs toy compared to the code quantum computing will spit out. the cyber war has just begun.

"Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no spoon."

Oh yes, most definitely, the cyber war has begun and similar to the chaotic terrorists, we will not know the source of this evil and its harm will spread to everyone in the world.

It is written, society will be given a number to help them function and prosper. Perhaps from our own government, we will all be given our own private encryption key along with other personal identify factors, to help us in communications, transaction\banking and life. People might call this the sign of the beast too. Because now an individual will be clearly identified, controlled and tracked. Personal freedom may become dust.

To not have this have this protection, an individual will be subject evil chaotic virus programs, where your transactions\banking is ruin, medical and social life too.

Well if a real virus does not kill life on Earth, perhaps it will be an electronic one that does the job.

metals99, you do realize this is the Internet, and not Soviet radio, right?

we should use these on China since they've been doing it to us

boka said, "Another reason to believe that USA is a terrorist organization."

SgtB said, "This was an aggressive provocation of war if not an act of war in itself"

I can't help, but think if this had been carried out by Iran or North Korea against the United States, both these characters would find nothing wrong with it, and in fact would cheer it on under the same rubric of why they're incensed toward the United States now.

The fact of the matter is, the United States has been in a technical state of war with Iran since 1979 when the US embassy was invaded and the occupants taken hostage, and every terrorist attack against US citizens and US property since 1979 has just been an reaffirmation of that war declaration.

The United States need not justify its actions at all.

SgtB,

Read United States history 1600 to present day. America has been "policing" the world since way before World War 1; though World War 2 is probably most recognizable.

Read this, as it might offer some insight.

http://www.cfr.org/us-strategy-and-politics/americas-destiny-police-world/p5559

@SgtB, it happened when the west lost their spine and gave into the control freaks running our nations.

This is unconstitutional and illegal. Obama is a pawn for wall street and the zionisit lobby.

If Iran did this to us we would call them terrorists, it would be an act of war. We would have planes bombing their children with DU. (U.S loves killing brown kids). But Obama does it and all the sheep want to fly the red white and blue. Face it America is a hypocrite in the truest sense of the word.

You know what it is truly infuriating? Not that the Americans think they're some sort of Gods on Earth who have the unviolable and supreme right to create rules for the world. No. It's the fact that no European stands up against the obvious, flagrant, blatant proof that the US is becoming the world's police, much like the Big Brother in Orwell's 1984. The future is, unfortunately, rather bleak since this situation is not likely to change for one very simple reason. Europeans are dependant on the US for their trade and current-account balances and standing up against these crimes would be a suicide in present times.

And yet, the Europeans realized it is much simpler to lean towards the US and accept its mischievousness in exchange for a peaceful W-Europe-US alliance. When the United States of Europe will come into existence, don't ask why your civil liberties will disappear in a second. Large, centralized government are the ideal of every politician, since the number of people needed to rule a country is far inferior to an antonym situation.

I will ask you another question: why does the US not propose Iran, and the whole world for that matter, to eliminate ALL and EVERY SINGLE weapon of mass destruction? You, who read this, would feel safer, right? But yes, now I remember, Americans are superiorly-rational, unquestionably tolerant, freedom-centered, politically-correct, virtuously-brave. You are Gods and for this you have the right to possess nuclear weapons and dictate the rules in this world on who has the right to possess them and who not. Well, I don't buy it.

To the brainwashed gentleman above (I apologize for being too soft) who claims the US does not need to justify its actions, all I say is that your comment speaks for itself. Further debating over what you said would give your absurd comments too much credibility.

The new york times wouldn't have printed it if the current white house didn't want it to be known. So why.

Does it seem like a farcical play is being put on for us? All the people of the world. One piece two pieces three, bit after bit setting up a final war, on purpose. Timing it for 2012 and making it match revelations is just a plus.

Lining up iran and the emperor from the east china who back them, perhaps russia being pushed too through controlled election protests. Israel will be destroyed, all the world will march. The various social factions will exclaim whatever their set to. It's religions fault, religion meant it to be, muslims are the problem, the west is the problem, humans are the problem. blah, blah. And so we will march.

I look at bits of history and see the same pattern repeated over and over, with each set the method gets improved, and adapted for current events. We're being moved to war again, all of us and not by accident or religious destiny.

This wouldn't have been printed if it wasn't in someones interest for it to be. Don't know who they are, but the pattern of their fingerprints are all over the worst parts of history. I wish for us to stop them now. To understand that the actions of one socialist anarchist couldn't have started WWI unless someone wanted it to. That an itinerant part jewish painter wouldn't have risen to enough power to create WWII and the enormous social eugenics experiment that it was, to breed out the strongest and bravest of us all unless someones interests would be served. And that the socialist republic of iran would not have been able to get the bomb, unless it too was in someones interest. And a myriad of other pieces interlocking most failing but always trying again when society becomes weak.

We can stop them this time if we start to see this pattern, and understand none of what we we know as truth exactly is. May be the first step is to understand the media lie, and in a way that will advance the cause why I don't know. Just remember Time magazine gave hitler man of the year twice, the media provide cover long enough to build the evil, then its released and we assume the simple reasons are reasonable enough. A dishonest media is not without victims, ask the hundreds of millions killed in war, communist purges and on and on. Unceasing for at least a couple hundred years. We either stop them, whoever they are, here and now, or there won't be anything left to save. This is the last shot, its for all the marbles or at least one big blue one, either they win or humanity wins and we are free of them. They hide behind the scenes so they can always try again, leave them no place to hide.

I love it. After all the hype about Iran allegedly digitally hijacking a USA drone, The US can say, "well we pumped out arguably one of the most innovative recent viral programming marvels specifically designed to disrupt your enrichment program without collateral damage and without you figuring it out for the longest time. And it worked." Good to know the US is still competent.

Also, as a thought experiment, imagine you have a great power, but you don't use this power for harm unless you must. Then someone comes along and wants this power, and you think they would use this power for harm with less reservation than yourself. What do you do? You stop them from attaining the power. The US has every right to stop Iran from attaining nuclear power because The US has been ethical about the use of its power, and Iran is less likely to be.

Why have the Bomb? The only purpose in having the Bomb is not to use the Bomb, but to have the potential for the Bomb. The US has no need for the Bomb, any more than France, England, China, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, India, or any of the sideline players (who may have nuclear potential).

The simple truth is, so long as people think you have the bomb, they are compelled to deal with you.

The US has some cyber capacity. They want it to come out that the incredibly effective and directed attack was of their genius. Otherwise, if no one knew about it, how would it serve as a deterent?

Much like the Bomb, it takes a few examples to let the world know your capabilities - so that those capabilities need not be so regularly exercized, but can instead be another piece on the diplomatic chess board.

Fear is the driving force for the media. Corporations only want more dollars and will use the media, to influence your emotions, so you buy more for emotional reasons and not make logical choices.

A recently article posted recently on the media, but the actual problem has been around for years, is of woman who was declared legally dead. She could not apply for a job, could not cash checks, could not get married and had no credit history. This also causes other problems as well. This happens to 1000 people in the USA a month. Once it happens, it is a problem that is almost impossible to fix.

Our government created in 2005 a new id system and eventually wants to put an ID chip in all people in the USA. If you id, location, purchase will be tracked by this chip. This chip can be turned off by the government.

Our current politicians are incapable of making decisions and when they do make decisions are bias via the corporations they represent. Our politicians fog us will emotional problems, that side track us from real issues. All politicians represent corporations and not the people.

The US Federal Reserve controls all the money, media, corporations and well basically the USA people. IT has been doing this for over 50 years. The Federal Reserve actually cause the great depression, to help buy up the small banks pennies on the dollar.

Who is the cartel\people of the US Federal Reserve?
Why they are not elected officials?
Why is this private company and has the single most powerful influence upon the USA people?

Stuxnet, Flame, computers and USA infrastructures are vulnerable to viruses and hackers, fear is being created to remove more of your individual rights, tag you like an animal.

Corporations are exploiting the world recourses, polluting the world and the world population will double in 35 years. Imagine everything costing more and the world becoming a more polluted place with less of everything.

The Federal Reserve and the World Bank’s own the people, prefer war, scarce recourses, chaos, population growth, and pollutions makes for good business and profit for the corporations and the banks. The people will be identified for their protection, heard like sheep and cattle and finally tagged.

Our current government leaders are selfish greedy dollar driven cowards that work for the corporations and the Federal Reserve Bank. Democracy is an illusion and our Freedom is a marketing fantasy.

Our government is bankrupt, there will be no social security and medicare and our politions are descussing gay rights and marriage. They use emotional issues to distract you from reality.

Grow up people and take your freedom back!!!!!!!!