Russian Space Chief: 'We’re Talking About Establishing Permanent Bases' On the Moon

It's about time. I want to up at the moon on a clear night and see Tyco City, Luna before I die. :)

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In space, no one can hear a tree fall in the forest.

One word:

"PROPAGANDA"

Those who wish SpaceX would go away would like to scare the public into thinking that the world is conspiring against us in space. Just another ploy to make people believe that going back to the spaces shuttle days are the way to go.

Basically, "If you can't knock down the success of spaceX, then try to use scare tactics"

Nice try but . . . I DON'T THINK SO.

The outcome has already been predicted by human nature and science fiction... but on the plus side we will have giant MECHs!

Narrator: With high expectations, human beings leave Earth to begin a new life in space colonies. However, the United Earth Sphere Alliance gains great military powers and soon seizes control of one colony after another in the name of *justice* and *peace.* The year is After Colony 195. ~Gundam Wing

GMarsack - Maybe you better LEARN HOW to Check and Edit your Babbelings first, before you LOOK up at the Moon and Die.

"It's about time. I want to up at the moon on a clear night and see Tyco City, Luna before I die."

Everyone is TALKING about it. Everyone has been TALKING about it since the 1920s. The problem is too few people are actually DOING it.

I think with a bit of help from Apple, Google and Microsoft Spacex and Bigelow could be the first people to establish a lunar settlement. JP Morgan alone could afford it out the money they lost this year, but the last thing you want is a bunch of bankers on the moon. Bill Gates could do it his self and still have $59 Billion left. Elon Musk having invested about one 20th of his wealth (about $100 million) into Spacex is leading by example.

I'm not sure how far along the Falcon Heavy is, but as it uses the same technology as the Falcon 9 it shouldn't take them much longer. They could launch 2 BA 330 modules to LEO per Falcon heavy launch. So for about $350M they'd get 660 Cubic meters of space or if they did 3 launches at about $1 Billion then they'd room for a swimming pool as well, which would be essential for the hotel business. Add an extra billion for getting everything on the moon and equipped.

I'm probably wrong on the costings but I still think its possible for private companies to get there first.

@dv8inpp,

that is a great proposal. most these companies that have billions of dollars are wasting money on crap. google is for the advancement of humanity with its driver less car among other great inventions. all of them coming together would create limitless possibilities for the survival of humanity. but we would still need help from other companies and governments in order for humans to succeed.

"religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom"

-Killah Priest

I feel our world leaders are gambling addicts; spinning the wheel of fortune and tossing the working people’s money at far reaching scams in a desperate hope to win and solve all our economic woes and promote their political ambitions.

I do want to see us grow scientifically and outer space too, but I like to see real practical accomplishments society can use now. No more of the pie in the sky dreams bullsh#t.

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Science sees no further than what it can sense, i.e. facts.
Religion sees beyond the senses, i.e. faith.
Open your mind and see!

About time something was even mentioned in any serious way about moon travel. Maybe if our world's governments and rich weren't so concerned about personal gain or useless expenditures, we might already be on mars :(

Couldn't have said it better myself, robot.

Today's magic is tomorrow's technology.

Take it from a sci fi fan these people watch to much TV.
it's a simple fact of biological the human race as it is now we will never colonize the moon.

Even if we over looked all of the glaring technical problems because they can be overcome to be a viable colony they must have a self-propagating population. But any child born on the moon (if it’s even possible) will have a short painful life and will never see a sunset through anything else but a view screen. Kids don’t go to space for a reason; even a small time in zero G can cause lasting damage to their system. Now imagine how destructive living their whole life in the kind of environment will be on these kids.

Without kids you only have outposts were people spend a few months before they head home.

So, we weren't officially represented at this international conference, but through our erstwhile partners' wisdom in having the event here, our place was implicit.
If that was the intent, thanks. If not, don't correct me because I'm suffering from No Space Program Syndrome and they haven't started issuing my pills yet.

Maybe all the different nations' discussions about being the first to create a settlement on the Moon will be enough to spark the next Space Race, and (as Neil Degrasse Tyson often mentions) create jobs and technologies for the world, which in turn would help out the economy if nothing else.

“We’re talking about establishing permanent bases.”

Talk is cheap. I will start believing it when I see a budget approved.

POPSCI in an article last year or a while back wrote of a story of establishing a Pizza Hut on the Moon!

Now that will be the kind of permanent base, I like to see!

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Science sees no further than what it can sense, i.e. facts.
Religion sees beyond the senses, i.e. faith.
Open your mind and see!

@ Dex Drako-

Might it still be possible for kids to live on the Moon since it's not Zero-G? Though it has a weaker pull than Earth does, it still has an up & a down! I do agree that a colony is centuries off, however.

Better start ramping up that In Situ Resource Utilization program first! Preferably using robots to begin with.

By the time we land the next human on the moon, they should have lunar-generated water, shelter, and rocket fuel waiting for them.

As for Sci Fi - I would *love* a hard-SciFi TV series about the building of the first lunar colony! You can show all the political machinations on Earth, the human interest/tragedy/romance among the first builders of the colony, maybe even some martian meteorites with traces of life. Please don't put an alien artifact on the dark side of the moon though...

*Yawn"

This sort of news use to excite me, but you can only listen to so many unkept promises until its all met with skepticism. It's always "Sometime in the next decade". The proverbial carrot on a stick. Less "going to do" and more doing. Let us know when the first launches take place to send base modules to the moon then I'll believe its being taken seriously. Until then its just talk.

Don't take life to seriously! You'll never get out of it alive.
-Elbert Hubbard

I'm really surprised no one has mentioned this: Artificial Gravity. Perhaps not feasible right now, but possible in the near future. Solves one of the problems of living in space or on the Moon. And please don't tell me it's impossible, because then you sound like the people who once said flying was impossible.

But if the Russians are living there first, how can Newt Gingrich make it the 51st state? :P

the concept of Russians bases on the moon bothers me...
and the fact that it bothers me bothers me, the cold war was before my time why do I care WHO does as long as it is done?
anyway it will not happen until a government values knowledge and exploration and innovation more than they do money

Man how sad would it be if Russia builds one first, :( that's how sad.