You know, it’s one thing to “shoot down” the top secret spy drone of the imperialist zionist heathen enemy. But come on Iran--stop bragging. Iran today released a two-and-a-half minute video and the first images depicting the RQ-170 stealth drone that it claims it shot down on Sunday. It’s the first visual proof that leaders of the Islamic Republic are actually holding the drone it their possession.
If you missed this latest diplomatic dust-up: on Sunday Iran claimed its military had downed an American drone, a claim that U.S. officials somewhat backed up by saying controllers in Afghanistan had recently lost contact with a drone flying in that country and that--maybe just maybe--that drone accidentally wandered into Iranian airspace.
The plot thickened when the U.S confirmed that in fact the missing drone was indeed an RQ-170 (as Iran had originally claimed), a top secret drone designed to cruise undetected at up to 50,000 feet. It’s the same drone that offered aerial recon before and during the raid on Osama bin Laden’s compound. And it’s something the U.S. intelligence infrastructure would likely not like shared with its adversaries.And now, as you can see in the video below, it certainly appears that a RQ-170 is in Iranian custody. The release of the images and video coincides with Iran’s lodging an official diplomatic protest over the American incursion into its sovereign airspace.
So we know the Iranians really have the drone and that the drone appears to be intact. Now comes the part where we, the public, try to parse the posturing (on both sides) from the truths. For instance, Iran claims its air defenses detected and shot down the drone as soon as it entered Iranian airspace. Yet the drone in the video looks highly un-shot-up and mostly un-crashed. The official in the video is apparently explaining this away by claiming Iran’s military brought the drone down with the intention of causing minimum damage. Gravity generally doesn’t bend its rules based upon intention, but okay.
And then there’s the fact that the drone was recovered some 140 miles from the border. Had the drone been engaged just as it crossed into Iranian airspace, one could envision it limping its way in-country for a distance. But more than 100 miles?
Of course, the U.S. seems to be trying to sell the idea that it hasn’t a clue how the drone got into Iranian airspace, so I’m not trying to throw too many stones here. Suffice it to say that Iran is currently holding a piece of super-stealthy U.S. intelligence equipment that’s supposed to be secret, and whatever the truth is we’re probably not going to hear it in its entirety from anyone. Enjoy the video--after all, it’s also your first up-close look at the RQ-170.
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Why....if that thing was shot out of the skies, is it in perfect condition? Not even a scratch, where is the damage? How did they actually get this?!?!??
That thing looks like it was delivered...What is going on here?
This confirms my assumption that Iran does not have the technology capable of shooting down such a craft. The thing doesn’t even looke like it crashed landed. Looks like the U.S purposely flew it in and landed it to stir up trouble.
Also where is the black stealth technology?????
The author got one thing right, there are many zionists in the U.S government.
@kronikor
restored?! ^^ anyway...
no sequence self destruction button on it? ^^
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bored? lets go mine the stars... ^^
I can't imagine there would be much of a Drone left if it crashed -- they are probably designed that way.
looks more like a Trojan horse knocking on the gates to me.
According to the BBC, the Iranian officials aren't exclaiming they shot it down, but rather that they electronically hijacked it and brought it down safely.
"However, Iranian officials say its forces electronically hijacked the drone and steered it to the ground."
- http://bbc.in/uwBXGf
I can't say that's the truth, but it is certainly a more consistent response with the fact of it being in essentially mint condition.
So..... why are they wasting their time bragging and making videos when their running a hate war? They're always getting so excited....
The BBC has already reported on this, and there sources are a little better than Popsci's. They have possesion of the drone because they were able to hack into the GPS satellites where the signal transfers for drone control are transmitted from one part of the planet to the next. Allows Reaper, Predator, and apparently Sentinel pilots to control aircraft that are on the other side of the planet. Plus it allows the exchange of sophisticated algorithms to be downloaded into the aircraft for new mission updates.
Basically, the drone was hacked and flown into a crash landing. The intial "Shoot down" claim from Iran probably came from a higher up that didn't have a detailed report. There's no doubt the U.S. Government has a significant interest in Iran and it's development of nuclear energy (possibly for weapons). Being 140 miles from the coast, it's likely the aircraft was not doing ISR for the Afghan territory but over Iranian territory. It just makes better sense to deny the claim of the latter with the former.
@ALH
Modern stealth technology is not black like the SR-71, F-117, and the B-2. Painting something black is more for the effect of visually hiding it at night or during twilight moments of miniscule sunlight sufficient to visually identify an aircraft. The stealth technology lies in the construction and material that goes into the design of aircraft. If you notice F-22s, they are not black. Neither are F-35s.
Also gotta point out (while I understand you say most) I'm not a zionist, as I really don't know what they're about.
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The implications can vary from the handful of possibly nefarious to the dozens to hundreds of outright absurd theories of what's really going. You'll just never know unless you are apart of the small inner circle of people that knows what's really going on. If there's anything of that nature going on at all.
In the meantime, The Iranians have given two differing reports based on a jumpy reaction in receiving news on acquiring the aircraft before having all the details (why they first said they shot it down rather than it was brought down), and someone in the Intelligence infrastructure of the U.S. Government has dropped the ball on operational cybersecurity pertaining to Iranian capabilities, and what seems to be covert ISR operations over Iranian territory.
@GideonOmega
That stands to be a possibility too.
LOL, nice little propaganda video. Love the American flag with the skulls for stars(talk about childish.) This thing looks like a RQ130 prototype, the RQ170 has very sharp angles like the F117 stealth fighter. And why aren't they showing the underside of this thing at all?
Oh well, our American invincible war machine has been dealt a major embarrassment. If they can electronically down an American top secret aircraft, then they have a lot more tech know-how they appear to show.
The world is getting very small.
Just drop a bomb on the country, and end all this bs. It's the American Way, come on everyone?
@phoenix
I'm not sure I believe they hijacked it either - if we lost control of a drone that was active, the pilot would notice, people would be alerted and another drone would probably shoot it down before anything happened.
I find it hard to imagine we have such a low level of monitoring/fail-safes on our "MOST SOPHISTICATED" unmanned active aircraft - We would see it lose control, we would see it descend and we let it get all the way to them??
Even if we lost communication with it entirely, wouldn't THAT be alarm enough to swarm the area to investigate? The military is not noob status...
But you're right, there is a small circle of people who know the truth, we're not in it...that in and of itself is troubling and disconcerting...considering this country is supposed to be for the people by the people.
Yet the people have become employees of a business in the industry of power.... sad really...yet here I am a functional part of that system, and also compliant...why? Whyyyy do we allow this to go on? Lies...lies....lies......lies..........lies.......
@kronikor
Occupy the military.
. . . and they say conspiracies do not exist.
@kronikor
. . ."U.S. officials somewhat backed up by saying controllers in Afghanistan had recently lost contact with a drone flying in that country" . . .
That means the Iranians took complete control of the craft. They didn't say it. We did.
FAKE. Look at it, looks like it was just picked up at the Lockheed factory. If it were real, you would think we could afford a self-destruct for it.
@menoc
Occupy military would end horribly. So much bloodshed...
But on a darker note, no one can hide the fact that conspiracies exist. The question in this instance is what is the conspiracy. If there is one at all.
As redundant as our technology and processes tend to be, we as humans are still succeptible to fallibility in operational processes. Be it factory work, office work, agricultural work, or clandestine government work, we're only human which makes us and the things we create ultimately fallible (YES THAT MEANS THE iPHONE TOO!!).
Of course, it could be the American public in general isn't willing to accept that Iran has the capability to achieve such a feat for the conceptual outlook that most countries outside of North America, Europe, and East Asia are backwater mudholes stuck in a primordial setting.
Iran may not be as endowed as we are, but they are highly capable (especially with business partners from China, whom we know for a fact are the center of hacking excursions across the globe). It could be they actually achieved this.
The idea of this drone being a Trojan Horse is a hopeful thought generated to try and save face for the human fallibility of people at the controls of the most sophisticated components of the U.S. military. This does not rule out the fact that this could also be true, as it has been confirmed by the International Atomic Energy Agency that Iran has been enriching uranium at levels akin to developing nuclear weapons.
The facts are, a U.S. drone was downed in Iranian airspace. The Iranians have possession of it and are holding the U.S. accountable. The only question left is what's the fallout from this? Can't just ignore the situation. As far as blunders go this is a big one. Then again the skill set to cyberdeter ISR operations is just an inevitability in the growing evolution of ever increasing ISR centric warfare.
@menoc
Okay. I have nothing against the iPhone. I'm just saying it's not perfect, and neither is humanity.
Actually . . . I have nothing against the iphone either. But I only use it to make phone calls. . . the iPad on the other hand is a complete piece of useless gadgetry.
oh, i'm sorry we were talking about the Iranians . . .
They seem to be hiding the bottom on purpose. Also you can see slight damage to the left side, about 1/3 the way down. They seem to try to hide it by having the people stand in front of it at times, but you can clearly see it at 0:47. To me, these make it look like it 'belly flopped' down without any landing gear (why hide the bottom if it's undamaged and the landing gear is out?). I take this as a sign that they were not in full control of the aircraft its self and probably just the navigation computer. Actually, they probably wouldn't even have to have control of the nav computer to take it down. All you need to do is find a way to jam the signals from the satellite and the plane should just continue straight (depends if there are internal fly-home or self destruct comands) on its path. If you time it to coincide with a point on the flight path where the trajectory is towards Iran you could essentially force it to keep flying straight into the country without having any actual control over it.
I suspect that they spoofed a GPS a signal which is kinda scary but the easiest and most logical thing to attack in an EW environment. It would be easy to test/create since Iran probably has all sorts of intact military GPS gear from the Iraq war which they can test and reverse engineer from.
All they would need to do is create a false GPS signal with the wrong coordinats and they could control the crafts position since the craft would think it would be in the wrong location. All they would need to do is to then direct it to a nice flat/soft piece of dessert slowly lowering the altitude til it crash landed.
Iran has a fairly educated society and this is definitely something that they could do. The military heavy reliance on GPS is a major weakness.
@GideonOmega
I like your Trojan horse idea. Since UAVs aren't that new ( although I know this one is more autonomous than most) drop one on the Iranians and let them pull it into their military facilities. Once in there the real top secret technology comes out... smart dust and micro air vehicles that can embed themselves within Iran's military infrastructure for undetected up close and personal monitoring of all their operations.
@ SlumLord & GideanOmega
I think you both are on the right track, except you are missing what is staring you in the face. We now have a reason to attack Iran because we just handed them a way to use a NUKE with stealth technology making them a grave threat.
We basically tossed a knife at a drunk bum's feet and are now grinning with a gun in our hand and murder on the mind. You think the bum will pick up the knife?
@pheonix1012 maybe your right but we think that for a reason.
its like if were were school kids, we know our rival a students and maybe someone could do it but not Iran.
it would be much like the class bully hacking into my mack book. if they had help from china then china would want a piece. those things are encrypted (@ last i heard) with such a good algorithm that every computer on the earth could work on it until the universe ends and still not crack it.
and only a quantum computing breakthrough would ever let anyone crack the signal.
either Iran has some basic intel on our uav (basic shape etc)
or our military dropped the ball like never before.
these things were built to stand up to tech giants like china, India, the UK, Germany, and japan.
its hard to believe what we built to be hack proof to the best was hacked by a country like Iran. if they still haven't figured out nuclear weapons they are a LONG LONG LONG way from that kind of hacking ability.
ps. lets track down this building and sink a let them try to reverse engineer a jdam @ free fall :D
I think a big problem is that the contractors who are subcontracted by the military do not put the necessary effort into security. I read an article (I believe on Popsci) where the military busted down a door in Afghanistan and seized a terrorists laptop. On the laptop they found video files with USA drone video feed. The government contractors was too lazy (or ignorant) to encrypt their video feed. The terrorists took off the shelf equipment and were able to monitor what the drones where doing. I am not at all surprised that they claim they hacked in and took over control. It is either that or someone intentionally landed this in Iranian territory. Either way this is a huge waste of tax payer dollars.
10 bucks it has a camera live feeding and is hooked up to a bomb and we are waiting for a special someone to get just close enough...then boom, Trojan horse part 2, target eliminated, or its an alien spacecraft...
come on U.S., your better than that, how in the hell do we lose one of our most highly advance technologies to the enemy, it just makes no sense how they get it so easily, you know If I was a top figure in the U.S. military or intelligence, finding out that the enemy got their hands on all this stealth technology, would be absolute failure to my job and completely humiliated that this happened, it just doesn't add up why we didn't do more to retrieve it back, they said it crossed the boarder but not as far as we all think, we tracked the damn thing till it went down, and no one went after it before it did? come on, thats extremely fishy to me, or just extreme laziness to the u.s. military, I'm extremely disappointed in you guys and how this was handled. you know I say we just walk in there and take it back, if they fight us who cares, its going to happe sooner or later, so why not and go in and get our stuff back
What a load of horse shit. Fedex could have shipped that thing and scratched it up more, and Iran is claiming they forced it out of the sky? You can't trust Iran any more than you can trust our own government officials.
This could be a lot worse, they could have one of our servicemen. Unmaned aircraft is the way to go. It sucks that "we" dropped the ball but the person that was flying this still got to go home to his or her famliy.
Why the United States and Iran are the enemy. You think.. People want the politicians or
who Terrorist? Someone who will defend their country or who take hundreds of thousands of people in Afghanistan, Iraq, Japan, Vietnam and....
Nothing to worry about and I doubt the US gov will even blink a eye at this, the drone if real and not a replicate likely had its database/hdd wiped good on system failure so it really isn't much use without that operating system and its data.
I find it more likely it had a catastrophic system failure and its damage avoidance system brought it down to a hard landing.
Even having been captured, i doubt they will claim any useful information from the drone. There are so many booby traps and failsafes in the technology that the second they try to crack it all the data modules, be it hard drives or volatile memory storage, will certainly self destruct rendering themselves unrecoverable.
The only thing they are likely to benefit from would be the design and mechanical components of the craft itself. None of which are really all that new or impressive. Keep in mind, unmanned craft are designed to be lost. They are made very inexpensive (keep in mind i mean inexpensive relative to their manned counterparts). Without the sophisticated software and data to coordinate the components, its really nothing but a nifty jet engine, a few sensors, and a mile of copper wrapped up in a composite shell. Really nothing they couldn't buy off China.
iether its a trojan horse for the states to find where iran is hiding all its top secret shit, or a major derp by the US military
If Iran can hack into drones. Just image how worthless these drones would be against China. Better go back to the manned fighter planes if these embarrassing pictures are true. Being able to use them over Afghanistan is not really that impressive since it`s one of the most underdeveloped nation on the planet. In Libya, drones were only used after most ground targets were destroyed. This will hardly be possible with a more worthy foe. Just my 2 cents.
F35 stealth fighter $309 million per copy, F22 raptor stealth fighter $339 million per copy, B2 spirit stealth bomber $2.2 billion per copy....your most advanced stealth technology defeated in one fell swoop...Priceless!
@ phoenix1012 i think is perfectly right.
The best explanation for not showing us the bottom of the UAV is so that we will not see the lack of damage to the underside. Which means that the thing was comandeered and landed without any damage. aka, hijacked. Not only have they lost the stealth materials edge but also the software & communications security.
Interesting. Now there will be a massive technological disaster. Many counries will get their hands on this tech. and this means that the U.S. probably realises that they will now face new cold wars. This also means that the plans of replacing manned aircraft with UCAVs are all screwed. The hunt will also be on for the spies who leaked the codes, etc. Tom Clancy has some new books to write...
iran says they hacked it and you believe them? the truth in this instance isn't too damaging to us, of course we didn't give the whole story as we are trying to figure out the least embarrassing way to handle this, we say contact was lost with the drone, which really means some system failure and the craft goes into a default mode until we regain control or it runs out of fuel, the big issue is the self destruct didn't work, a huge failure, it basically glided to a belly flop landing on a relativly flat surface after it's fuel was expended, if iran hacked it and flew it to a controlled landing there would be no damage (the fight of these, including the landing, are autonomous, we just tell it where to go and it does the flying), the only reason they didn't show the entire craft in the video is to keep the damage secret so their story of hacking it is more believable, that way they can look more capable for their propaganda bull (yes, we too use propaganda), the simplest explanation is usually correct, cheers
It IS the drone, Iran HAS IT, and America is NOT getting it back.
A great day for the rest of the world...
America has to learn that the world is not theirs.
@rg-5...you are an idiot, the rest of the world begs us for help when in trouble and trash us the rest of the time, quit being an ignorant hating hypocrit troll
Delivered by FedEx to Iran, curtsey of the most corrupt & bought and paid for Government on Earth, the US Congress.
this thing is classified but how come i haven't read anything about a self-destruct.
An announcement a few days or weeks from now;
Mr president we have the feed you been waiting for, President Obama is rushed to a supper secret room in the White House. President is now viewing an image of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad apparently starring him the face. Of course Mahmoud is looking at the camera in our RQ-170 Stealth Drone. The president stares back for unnerving few minutes the generals in the room are sweating then our president presses the button. Trojan horse twenty-first century vision.
Iran caught it by EMP fishnet. That's why landing gears aren't visible.
There is something fishy going on with this. The drones are not being handled by GPS satellites as BBC reported. GPS satellites don't have the bandwidth to communicate with the drones. All of the other drones use either commercial or US military satellites to do the job, so why would they switch with just this one deployment?
It is also odd that they are not showing the bottom or rear of the drone. While the drone itself is important due to its stealth technology, most of the classified equipment on a drone is the optics system. You would think that they would really be showing off the optics if they got them.
Lastly, if the drone lost communications with this control station, it wouldn't matter. The drone has a pre-planned flight path that it will follow and I believe it even has programming to tell it to return to base if it has been out of communications with the control station for so long.
I would bet that they were given a drone and they are trying to take credit for something that just arrived at their door step.
@drchuck1 Now who is the 'id10t', calling me the idiot about something I'm right about.
I have nothing against America and its people(including you) but its 2 party political system and Government is a Massive FAIL!
(How about that debt? Its bigger than America itself!)
On a different note(Hint Hint), other countries only ask America for help because America feels it's their responsibility as 'world leaders' to help the little lazy 'helpless' others(so everyone takes advantage of that) and because there is Africa (which are truly Idiots). LOL They trash you all the time :D (Since you're speaking of 'us'..)
me and my friend live in iran.we proud to our ability and fucked your pussy plan and know my penis in back of your drone.if think of attach to iran is in you mind wait for our penis.motherfuckers.
@Nebs Disguising a fake as the real deal while the other crashed one is trashed? Most likely not... That would be pointless!
The white colour of the drone is most likely linked to the fact that it was carrier launched if you ask me. Navy drones often appear white.
Also I don't get why the optics system is so 'classified', its practically a cheap telescope with a IR camcorder plugged into it! The video quality even is kinda sucky (remember this drone is basically 90's tech already) The parts for it were probably even made in china for america!(Ok maybe not that extreme :D )
Ps: why would anyone even think gps sat's could communicate with drones they just send time data are are hopelessly slow, if they can even buffer video streams...
You'd have to have satellites in geostationary orbit/or switching between many F-fast moving ones above the drone to sustain a connection.
So you also know most of these drones are still controlled via ground stations/relay stations in pakistan/neighbourhood.
The problem with you zombies that think Iran could not have hacked the overpriced kite is that you always underestimate Iran, yES! They might have some serious issues with people trying to boss them around, but for crying out load, they have quite advanced technology compared to a lot of countries and theirs are home brewed. There are a lot of very very intelligent people in that dist bowl, if not whu is everyone worried and beffing them not to build out on their nuclear art. The drone is just yechnology, any advanced PHD candidate to figure out how to maim them if given the resources. The Iranians are backed to the wall. have sanctions oozing every where for decades, so they are quite capavle in self sufficiency given all the embargoes. Underestimate them to your ruin. For example, even the Isrealis are not remotely not , because they really do not know what the Persians have, so they are threading very carefully and want to be backed up by the entire world.
Yup! We wasted money on that piece of can, The only reason they had been effective in pakistan villages.somalia and Afghanistan is because, they were just there frightening goatherders in any fairly modern dump those pieces of junk would have been messed up a long time ago, I mean, for exanple, if you had that im Lebanon, the hezzbollah would have wiped them out. and saved us wasting money producing them any more.
1960's repeat,Garry Powers, U-2 Crash.
Or perhaps 80's Kosovo F-117 Crash.
2011, oops spy planes still tumble from the sky...
At least no Pilot needs rescuing this time! :D
Ps for the non-thinkers, don't even think of this being a trojan horse... LOL! There's no radio signal going in or out of that place.
And any timer would long have long been found, and well the consequences of that would likely not be good if there where one.
But the loss of this is anyhow just pocket money in Americas budget.
Maybe Robin Hood was even involved! Stealing from the rich, giving to the poor...
look if you want people to read your articles then you must be formal. the credibility is completely gone because of the spiteful and immature way this article was written. popular science i thought you were better than this
@pheonix1012, as a trained military electonic warfare tech, the paint DOES play a part in the stealth abilities, as does the shape, engine and trust locations, active cooling etc. But the paint IS part of the package and not just for looks, sorry buddy but I'm Air Force trained and you are wrong on that one.
Don't EVER believe what any government agency reports to the media. It's *NEVER* the whole truth. Personally, I this appears as a gimme. You float an expendable aircraft in and track everything the oposition does to try to gain control, shoot down, etc. If they succeed, now you have logs of what they did, now track where it goes. I'm sure there are plenty of onboard devices pumping information back. As far as the "intercepted 140 miles in" I know from personal fact that they would have known it was coming well before it crossed into Iranian airspace, and the flight controllers of the drone would have known this and would have known that they were being tracked. Yet the craft flew straight in, then magically had control removed from the flight controllers command, instant actions would have been taken. This sounds more like a plant/gimme/trojan horse than an actual iranian success. But I guess we may never know. I'm just basing my assumption on the missions I have run, the training I was given on the subject and my previous extensive military background.
Playing Devil's Advocate since 1978
"The only constant in the universe is change"
-Heraclitus of Ephesus 535 BC - 475 BC
If Iran was able to hack into what is probably a high security communication, what else can be hacked into and what can a country like China hack into. We could be in real trouble.
This looks like a job for Jack Bauer. Beep boop beep boop.
Hacking into these communications systems isn't as easy as you would think. First off, all communications to the drone is encrypted with proprietary US military equipment and code. The code is changed everyday and can be changed instantly if they feel there is a threat that it has been compromised.
Not only that, but even if you have the ability to hack into the signal, it won't matter unless they are using the same equipment and are in the same area as the ground station. For satellites, they can use different transponders to receive and transmit the communications to the drone and most of these drones are being handled back here in the states except for the smaller, deployable drone units, and the RQ-170 is not one of those.
If you can meet the two requirements above, you then have to figure out how to communicate with the drone. This would mean that you would have to have access to the program they use to communicate with it, or had the time to figure it out enough to gain control. That is not very likely since reverse engineering the software on a flying drone would be next to impossible to accomplish without some sort of knowledge of the system already.
Being able to accomplish all three is pretty hard to do. It is more likely that they just bombarded it with a wide range of frequencies in attempt to bring it down, which they would of had to do from above of the aircraft since it relies on space based satellites for communications.
Lastly, if the US knew it was no longer in their control, they could of shot it down way before it ever landed. The fact that they didn't means that they most likely wanted them to have it for some reason. If they shot it down, I could understand them having it, but they saying they hacked it, is very unlikely.
@rg-5 - Don't know if it is a fake, since it would be to hard to fabricate one that fast, but the fact that they are not showing all of the aircraft says that they are hiding something. If they hacked it like they said, why don't they fly it around and show everyone that they really did take control of it? Also, the optics on a Warrior drone is worth about $2.5 million, and the aircraft is only worth about $50,000 without its camera. And the reason why it is classified isn't because of how high tech it is, but rather if someone knew what the optics were, they would know what they could do to interfere with them remotely.
@Nebs don't think this stuff is that 'high-tech' and if you ask me the cam kit is way overpriced for its capabilities (according to your prices...) Likely Iran has had this drone a while longer than the US Government admits, since they often like to wait it out a while before making an announcement and the iranians most likely also didn't straight come running with the news cameras but stuck it in a safe radio shielded place first.
Also landing this Drone in Iranian borders would be, well... Monumentally Idiotic! Not to mention pointless to americas interests.
And if Afghanis can already use PC TV-Capture cards to watch and decrypt Predator Drone video feeds live(but not interfere) then its not so far fetched that clever Iranian PHD's have sorta 'hacked' the drone out of the sky. Obviously they didn't bring it to a controlled landing but they cant help but increase their ego by saying they did. Plus as I know from good sources, US Operational deployment security measures are pretty slack and digital encryption quite neglected in some cases, with many sectors asking for reforms even. Wikileaks has proven that already and amateur radio enthusiasts (like me) can easily listen in to Encrypted US strike aircraft that were flying over the mediterranean during the Libya Ops. This Equipment may be better than what everyone ele has but it isn't sci'fi NEW,its already been 10years in development and from easily 90's. Data feeds are realtime as possible and realtime feeds are easy to hack with enough processing power since they're optimized to stream fast with minimal data bandwidth. But America pushing Iran into the corner is just not going to work out right its turning into sort of a middle east arab-block conflict everywhere anyhow. Just like the old Soviet stories.
I would bet you a popsicle stick that the Russian or the Chinese provided much needed help in redirecting the drone. The Iranians are too dumb to do this without help.
i wonder what kinds of safeguards the US has against drones like this getting "hacked". i mean, seriously, we could just send commands to the drone along with randomly generated verification codes that could be reversed by a similar algorithm. then, have a hardwired circuit return it to the liftoff point if it loses that signal. Simple!!! Not to mention foolproof (and we all know by now that is has to be)!!!
@usaa I totally agree with that analogy. We’re daring Iran to use it so we can bomb them back to the stone age like Iraq.
But what I find most curious is that the propaganda machines of both countries seem to be cooperating.
@Pheonix1012, oh are you in the government?? I said “A lot of Zionists in U.S government” ie. Hillary Clinton, Donald Rumsfeild etc. A zioinist in the sense I am using it, is anyone pushing forth the Zionist agenda (free tech from the U.S, free weapons, free nukes, billions in welfare etc., permission to commit human right violations etc., basically anyone associated with AIPAC. All at the expense of the American tax payer and all because they are “God’s chosen people”
My personal opinion is that China is behind this. I don't believe Iran had the know how to commandeer one of our drone. I also don't think they are sophisticate enough to reverse engineer any significant technology from it.
BUT China does have the know how and the sophistication to pull this off.... I think they assisted Iran in pulling this off so that China can in the end, once Iran stops tooting their own horn, can purchase this drone for themselves. Because China loves reverse engineering our & other countries technology.
Geez codezero i see u comment on every article. My old account jdmsupernerd got glitched, so here I am commenting and wondering how the blip did they take down an rq-170 sentinel. I mean until like a year ago nobody even knew what this thing was! Ok so this is bad for the usa. But the good news is that if I remember correctly this is primarily a reconnaissance not an attack drone. But seriously all it would take is one little patriot missile to blow these guys off the planet. US gov. should consider this. Well whatevs, Im out.
always proud of my country!
IRAN <3
Anyone interested to see shotdown F-117A AF82 806HO or Predator drone, come to www.muzejvazduhoplovstva.org.rs/virtuelna_tura.php?jez=eng&id=1. It's a virtual tour through Aeronautical Museum Belgrade, Serbia. It was shot down with S-125 NEVA AA rocket system, produced in USSR somewhere between 1960-1970.
Oh c'mon.Who are they trying to fool?the plane barely got scratched!
@sargijeh
You may be proud of your country,but they need to chill out!
NO OFFENSE INTENDED!!!!!!!!!=(
Sorry,sargijeh.I am a bit hyper today.
Its more than likely a fake. It looks pretty small to me.
@ALH
I work for the U.S. Government. Does that count?
US to American people - "Oh yeah by the way we ACCIDENTALLY let our multimillion dollar top secret stealth RQ-170 drone wander 140 miles into Iranian airspace where it was shot down by Iranian forces"
Iran releases video of perfectly intact aircraft.
US - "Sorry about our previous story being complete bullshit. What we actually meant to say was that we were noobs and let the hajis hack it with their antiquated technology. Now that our technology is compromised lets pour another couple billion dollars that we could spend on infrastructure or education into another top secret drone with even more op technology that we can hand over to the enemy :D"
Well, I know why you cannot see the bottom side of the plain - there is a top secret blue screen showing "fatal error XXXXXX - do you want to restart?"
Yeah, self destuct. DUH! Did anyone notice the Tub and Tile calk at the wing/body connection. The bottom is also covered probably because of damage from landing wheels up.
This is another uncredited example of the advanced, Lifting Fuselage deisgn by American designer, Vincent Burnelli. Not a pure wing, it has a central body that gives more lift and more stability than a pure wing. Compare Burnelli's 1951 design model to this UAV and see other designs here... http://www.burnelli.com/wp/history
What is the best way to keep tack of the enemies tech? Give it to them when u already have some thing better and now u know how to defeat theirs. Sleight of hand, phsycological warfare let them think they got some thing that they really dont have!
I told them a hundred time not to use windows Vista :o)
Lockheed Martin, or knockoff?
www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=168745&d=1324558754
Remember who we're dealing with.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367204/Iran-builds-worlds-flying-saucer-Looks-like-belongs-1950s-B-movie.html
Man that's a pretty big RC Drone, I was thinking it was alot smaller than it is from the picture.
Ryan @ www.PortableSolarPower.Biz
Iran can't even give most of it's citizens clean water and reliable electricity. They obviously had help, probably from china or Russia, maybe both. Needless to say that means Iran doesn't have the technology or money to back-engineer the captured craft. Russia, china or a possible combination of both wanted to get their hands on some new US tech, but didn't want to be the victims of a shock and awe 2.0 campaign. They used Iran as a proxy to insulate themselves from any backlash.
This arrests the answer RQ-170 :
http://pesn.com/2011/12/14/9601981_US_Spy_Drone_Captured_by_Iranian_Flying_Saucer/