And let’s not forget the myriad dangers of using a single-access point of entry for the Web. Key to the Obama Administration’s "identity ecosystem" is the use of exactly this type of credential. This could take the form of unique software on a smartphone or a smart card that generates a one-time digital password, and according to the plan the approach would eliminate the need to remember all those pesky passwords. Great, right? Wrong.
If you have any doubts that switching to a single "trusted" credential, regardless of how strongly authenticated, will make things safer for you online, you haven’t been paying attention to the news. What the NSTIC will actually do is create yet another high-value target for hackers and cyber-criminals. And what exactly will happen when such a credential is compromised? Who will be responsible? These again are all questions left unanswered by the government.
Finally, on top of all of this is the fact that government plans to take make the entire system opt-in. This may help assuage the public’s Big Brother fears, but for such a plan to be effective, we’d actually need to see it implemented across the world. Indeed, the very foundation of NSTIC’s success hinges on mass adoption. And at this point, there’s no reason to believe, especially with all the unanswered questions and lack of assurances, that anyone will be rushing to sign up.
All this opting-in business also brings us to the more freaky realm of mandatory Internet licensing, another scheme backed by a surprising number of high-profile security experts and technologists. Think of these as driver’s licenses for the Internet. Every citizen would get a kind of learner’s permit in the form of a hardware ID, which would allow them access to certain pre-approved sites. Browse responsibly and you’re in the clear. But do something wrong and prepare to be tracked down and cyber-smited.
The rationale behind these plans is two-fold. First, proponents emphasize that cybercrime has become increasingly hard to police and that the Internet—or specifically computers—can be just as dangerous as say, a gun or car. Second, many of these otherwise intelligent people argue that we’ve already lost our privacy on the the Web. Our ISPs know all sorts of things about us. Our phones track us everywhere we go. So why live under the illusion we’re truly anonymous when we go online?
This is exactly what backers like Eugene Kaspersky, CEO of security behemoth Kaspersky Labs, and Microsoft Chief Research and Strategy Officer Craig Mundie use to rationalize such a system.
“When you buy a car, the car is registered and you have a driver’s license,” said Kaspersky in a 2010 essay on the subject. “If you want to have a gun, the same thing—it’s registered to the person who bought it. The question is why? Because it’s dangerous. With computers, you can make much more harm than with a gun or car.”
This is not only misleading, but in fact wrong in almost every way. An ordinary gun or car owner has the potential to do massive harm. Your average Internet user? Not so much. And while it’s true that large networks of computers can be dangerous (botnets, etc), equating them to deadly weapons is beyond ridiculous. This reasoning also fails (like the NSTIC plan) to acknowledge that authentication really isn’t the big problem here, it’s bad code in software and people and programs that exploit it. Furthermore, if the rationale is that privacy is dead, that our ISPs already know everything about us, why would these these mandatory IDs even be necessary? Authenticating something or someone that’s already known? It’d simply be a matter of tapping Big Brother and getting to necessary information.
Like NSTIC, there’s also the issue of scale with mandatory Internet IDs. For such a plan to even come close to being useful, there would once again need to be mass adoption. It’s beyond naive to assume every nation would somehow come together and approve a universal online ID system, especially one with such scary privacy implications.
Bottom line? As imperfect and piecemeal as our current safeguards can be, creating yet another online ID that hackers will inevitably exploit is not the way to boost privacy or make people feel better about online transactions. Yes, the Internet wasn’t designed to be a worldwide system of mass communication. But that’s exactly what it’s evolved into. And retroactively trying to police it or enforce mass adoption of new security schemes before they're fully legally baked is quite simply a recipe for disaster. Indeed, all these so-called trusted IDs schemes do is mask the decidedly unsexy solutions that could really get to the root of the problem: Continuing to push for more online fraud awareness, and implementing legislative safeguards.
After all, the real goal of any trusted identity ecosystem is actually to do away with true anonymity. And if everyone knows you’re a dog online, well, that changes the very thing that makes the Internet so unique and invaluable in the first place.
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Bad code is certainly a big contributer, but I don't believe for a minute that authentication wouldn't make much difference.
Many, and I mean many, of the attacks on networks and servers started by using phishing. If the person who sent the email could be verified with some certainty, or not verified (delete email), it would go farther to mitigate many of the attacks that we see now.
Our internet ID should be tied to our DNA. Considering technology will be going inside us.
sorry boka but a DNA based security system is a not only evil but dumb. first of all a biometric security system simply scans checks against the stored pattern and if it matches sends a password that is just as easy to forge as a typed one that hackers exploit regularly. secondly you leave samples of your DNA everywhere you go so anyone could hijack your accounts, you leave fingernail clippings, hair, dead skin, your barber could become a hacker simply by using your hair they cut earlier that day, thirdly while not hard to extract and test DNA it takes a long time to do. i have worked in a genetics lab by the way and the time it takes to run tests is the better part of a day. think trying to log on to face book having to wait six hours(just hope your network connection doesn't time out and you have to log back in. oh and don't count on being able to do it at home the equipment and chemicals for DNA manipulation are expensive and the equipment is big but with work you could probably build an automated and miniaturized system about the size of a large photocopier. thirdly if your account is hacked how are you going to change passwords? it's not like you can your star-trek tricorder and get a hypospray and change the DNA in every cell of you body.
Another point that wasn't really mentioned was the one about anonymity: I would hate to have an internet where everyone would know where I am, who I am, what I do, etc.; It is one of the fundamental advantages of the internet that would be slowly degraded by such "internet IDs"
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Well I would like to opt out of this as soon as possible.
There is no reason the government needs to be involved in my life other than to take my money. I'd say this is already an issue. Now they would like to monitor my every move. That's just wonderful.
Now what happens when someone's "SECURE USA INTERNET ID" gets compromised? They most likely be deemed a terrorist and go to jail.
I'm sure BIG BROTHER illegally snoops into my information already, but I do know ways to give myself some anonymity from that. It's not their business what I use the internet for.
The problem is that our government is becoming too involved. Instead of complaining about these liberal extremist (OBAMA) proposals, get out and vote for someone who isn't trying to put you on a tight leash. Seriously VOTE! A country of sheep breads a government of wolves.
Varsity
this somehow reminds me of southland tales.
from wireless energy transfer via sustainable resource (fluid karma) and now US-IDent.. lol..
Hmmm... just like the counterpoint, a lot of doom-and-gloom Beware-of-Big-Brother overreactions to a problem that needs to be solved... just as the American West needed to be tamed... but that will NOT result in some sort of totalitarian dystopia as many would like you to believe.
Yes, the process would be difficult, and certainly needs to be carefully planned and implemented. That doesn't mean it can't, or shouldn't, be done. The fact is, securing digital documents and web use with internet IDs would save time, make users and their data safer, and reduce costs by cutting back on fraud. And it will not result in some nameless organization "keeping tabs" on everyone on the planet (as if any government were capable of mounting such an operation... get real).
About the only people who have legitimate complaints about such a system are those who know they are going where they shouldn't go, doing what they shouldn't do, and committing the crimes and fraud that an ID system would fight. I have very little sympathy for "But I don't want them to catch me spamming the world and disseminating illegally-copied music files!"
Bottom line: This counterpoint is just a pile of excuses wrapped in paranoia, designed to frighten people into eschewing a secure internet.
@Varsity...please leave petty politics off this site, if you think repoublicans/conservatives don't want to keep track of you than you are a fool, they are the best at it while claiming to their sheep they don't, damn, know i am doing it!
@Steven L Jordan: there are reasons why internet-ID should get people paranoid and i can come up with a few reasons right from the top of my head.
1)physical keys transmitting digital codes (securIDs) can be stolen. even keys based on hardware configuration aren't good enough either since hardware can also be sold or stolen. you also have to consider that the internet can be accessed via multiple devices such as cellphones, TVs, laptops, desktops, etc.. and some of them are used by multiple users. some of those are even accessed publicly such as internet in the library. so how can people be so sure about authentication when these hardwares can exchange hands quite easily.. and like i said securIDs can be physically stolen and their keycodes can also be intercepted during transmission, giving it plenty of loopholes and vulnerabilities when it comes to security.
2)the government would now have an ironfist control over any information. once a site is flagged by the government as 'unappropriate' (ie: wikileaks perhaps?) then the government can effectively control access towards any website that provides any information that could incriminate the government as a form of censorship. almost like the same way that China controls the information that can be accessed by it's citizens. this is one of the aspects of internet-ID that would be utterly vulnerable to human rights abuse.
3)the next would be discrimination. people tend to forget that the internet is a world wide network where people from all over the world can freely exchange information and opinions freely and without prejudices between different ethnicity. this is one of the best aspects of the internet where it acts as the great 'equalizer' between people of different age, origin, and all walks of life.
an internet-ID will eliminate that and encourage further antagonism between different groups.
4)despite their propaganda, internet-ID is still vulnerable to scams the same way that a person can still get scammed in real-life, despite government regulation. which is why it can never become a substitute for building awareness or common sense.
simply put, internet-ID will never become foolproof given the complexity of it's nature and at the same time it would only introduce more complications than the problem that it is trying to solve.
My thoughts here:
low.li/story/2011/06/internet-ids-more-trouble-theyre-worth
Let's see.....We have the Department of Education...That's worked out really well. We have the Department of Homeland Security...THAT's worked out really well...maybe they will be the ones to monitor the online ID,s no? We have the TSA....Oh, yeah, THERE is an example of how well the federal government does things. The FDA is raiding Amish farmers for selling raw milk....Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm all in favor of a national internet ID. I'm absolutely certain that it will work out just fine for everybody and that the federal government would NEVER find anything nefarious to do with such a thing.
How about better desktop operating systems? Mac has just one virus. Linux has I think none. Windows has thousands.
In my line of work - professional and personal both - I'm fixing people's computers. They click on all sorts of things they don't fully understand. Some I have encouraged to buy a Mac. Some I have switched to free Linux and held their hand until they got used to the different colors and icons (SOME people have a really hard time with ANY changes at all). In every case these people who have switched away from Windows had zero problems from then on using the 'net. Sure they can still be phishing victims but I'm not cleaning up their computer's viruses any more and all have been smart enough not to give any info to anyone on the 'net.
(To be fair - most of the folks I have turned on to Mint Linux KDE -among other versions - have taken to it very quickly with very little hand holding. It just isn't that different from Windows except that it works better and it's virus free).
No I don't like the idea of the user ID licenses either. First there are the technical challenges, then there are the privacy issues mentioned by other commenters. The gov't already has plenty of tools to check on me and mine that I wish they didn't have (Patriot act anyone?) I also prefer not to give my info to any of the many corporate services our gov't would likely contract with to manage this new task.
I've read that Microsoft tried to push a couple ideas several years ago that involved having all e-mails tracked (license idea) and another where ALL software had to be licensed and reviewed by the government. The problem with that plan was that eliminated all free software like Linux (Microsoft's competition) b/c it is not clear who could pay the licensing fees or review costs for free software like Linux which were implied to be large.
Of course the plan said Microsoft would be self-inspecting their software much like some of the largest toy retailers were supposedly self-inspecting after the Chinese lead paint scare a few years ago. Microsoft can't self-inspect their own software now or the OS wouldn't have thousands of viruses aimed at it.
No, I'm automatically very, very suspicious about a company that controls the market already proposing legislation that would further complicate business for their competition like the Linux community. Especially when that company's products were already a big part of the 'net security problems - see WinXP and it's ability to be hacked a dozen different ways while you were using it unaware. Also see how Microsoft changes standards or creates new ones rather than participating in open standards like OpenDocument standards. Anything they have to do to remain a money maker.
I'll stick with Linux thanks and I recommend the free Mint Linux KDE desktop to anyone wanting to check out Linux and the ability to laugh at virus ridden browser popups that claim you have hundreds and thousands of viruses on your computer. "Click here" and in return a virus tries to install itself but the OS says "really?" Mint is my choice of OS but any of the top ten Linux versions are all pretty nice. I've recently tested PCLinuxOS, SimplyMepis, EasyPeasyLinux, Ubuntu, TinyME OS, and Sabayon to see how far they have come along.
Steve, we know you don't have kiddie porn, or drug(lol, such stupid laws), or anything illegal that we should know about. So how about weekly searches of your house, car, and all other personal belongings? You have nothing to hide, right? I mean, who needs privacy if you aren't hiding anything? How about having all cars equipped ignition interlocks and speed governors set at a maximum of 70?
Because obviously no car needs the ability to be driven without a blow and go. And obviously no car needs the ability to drive over 70, which is more than the speed limits on any road in america? And it's obvious that only criminals need to be worried about laws, right? If laws work so well, then why do we still have problems with drugs? Why do Chicago and DC have problems with guns, I mean they are illegal.
So how do people get around these laws? Just because you make laws to stop something, that doesn't mean that the activity is going to stop. All you are doing is making life harder for the law abiding citizens, on top of invading on their privacy. Last, he who gives up liberty for security deserves neither liberty or security.
They already give them out, they are called IP addresses. that should be good enough. Maybe you might need one to use a public computer, but a private computer no!
It just creates more bureaucracy, and like any other kind of ID it can be forged, and even bio security can be dangerous, if you use retina scan security, how many movies have already shown you just cut the persons eye out and use it if they are not cooperative?
Peeling off a persons finger skin to get fingerprints is just as doable. So unless they find a way to read brainwaives, which can be copied as well, honestly back to square one.
I think someone needs to point out that it is possible to have strong authentication and still maintain anonymity. Take a look at what Microsoft is doing with U-Prove.
I will be 70 in October of this year.
As a teenager I read a lot of Science Fiction, this situation brings a particular story to mind, George Orwell’s 1984. “BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four)
When I was younger there was McCarthyism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism) the witch hunt for Communists.
We have given our rights away as well as our county by companies moving totally overseas, selling our land and buildings to foreign individuals and companies; losing more and more jobs to foreign countries because we are too stupid to know better.
Over the last fifty years I have watched our freedoms slowly erode by federal, states and local government actions with more and more restrictions and licenses being required just to live our daily lives always with the excuse that it is for the greater good (see 1984).
Now the government was to take even more control of our lives by taking away our freedom to choose where we are allowed to go on the Internet, determine what we are permitted to see, molly coddle us like infants, tell us only we they thing is appropriate for use to see.
I thought the Constitution of the Republic of the Unite States of America granted us freedoms, but over the last fifty years I have watched those freedoms be nibbled at and rendered practically meanly less.
Since 911 even more restrictions have been imposed by the federal government and now they are trying to make it even easier for them to trace anyone who uses the Internet. I think it is time for us to take back control of our government to make it truly the voice of the people that it purports to be. Part of the problem is complacency, people just can’t be bothered, but when they lose some rights they will be screaming long and loud, but then it is too late.
National Voter Turnout in Federal Elections: 1960–2008 (http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html) has been as low as 36.4% in 1986 and 1988 to as high as 63.1% in 1960. This statistic goes from 1960 to 2008 and the average for those years is that 47.9% of the population has decided the office holder winners for 100% of the voting population, so on that basis I guess that we have gotten what we deserve.
One other book comes to mind Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury another story of suppression by government and taking control of the populous.
The government has forced upon us,
- Forced into commerce with private industry, Health care in Massachusetts.
- Genetically engineered food irradiated food down our throats throughout the country and we have no right to know.
- The Food Modernization Act.
- Genetically engineered cotton
- The culling of birds by the USDA {nice word for murder} as we wonder why there are thousands of birds dying like bloody fools.
- Vaccinations for all like it or lump it.
- Disgusting porn sites are allowed to exist. Why what good comes from them the feeding the sick based minds?
- They have the ability to surveil anyone that communicates outside our borders, so when I chat with my fiance in the UK iI'm not privy to any privacy, where are our human rights.
- And they can zoom into any street or location at anyone anytime.
- The TSA can scan us to nakedness.
Why not force a bloody internet id on us for using the internet, track us the live long day as if they pay for our connection oh right they don't, lets all get an id to solve Microsoft's problems due to their lousy software used world wide, as if it's worth it.
sasquatchlgm you are spot on and Steven L Jordan comment here shows that most of us have blinders on busy little ants, working and shopping.
We are in dire trouble as the government no longer works for us, we are the little pawns working for a government they say jump and we ask how high, this is not any longer a democracy.
>>> I say NO to internet ID.
"those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
— C.S. Lewis
I cant believe im actually saying this, since I am a huge proponent of personal freedom. I think a single internet I.D. is a wonderful idea if it is done correctly. My suggestion would be that a sample of DNA..a portion of which is used to generate an encryption key which would then encrypt your online activities. This not only protects your information from hackers but from the big brother aspect of the government itself. Dna collected by you analyzed by you in a special machine, destroyed by you after the encrytion key is generated. this is a very basic form of the Idea and requires more thought but you get the idea impossible to impersonate spoof or otherwise manipulate.
Worth the time to research it? I think so but to be honest of we really want to be secure first we must eliminate the morons who think its fun to break into something that does not belong to them... restrain those who feel they need to make a statement at someone elses expense....remove the reasons for those statements in the first place...CONTAIN Government totalitarianism, facisim and corruption. Then the need for such devices becomes redundant.
@Esme
Anarchist much? Since when has the government forced vaccinations on people? and more importantly how are vaccinces bad? Define genetically engineered? do you mean by intentional selection, and multiple generations of harvesting to get the best qualities? because that is how we are sustaining the current populations food needs. Those two i take issue with, the rest we can talk about.
How many times must tyrants violate our trust before we stop trusting the foxes with the henhouse?
As Thomas Jefferson said, "Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others, or have we found angels, in the forms of kings, to govern him? Let history answer [THAT] question!"
Privacy is one of our inherent rights. Citizens wanting to give the government even more power than it already has to violate that right is the height of folly. Government officials usurping more power to themselves to violate that right is criminal.
I made an account just so I could comment on this.
The idea of implementing internet IDs is just awful
It will not solve online problems, but it will help the govt
stalk people, and the notion of having to pay for every copyrighted image, video, and text is terrifying to me.
Why not have both ?
When you want to buy something, you use the key
and when you want to stay anonymous you don't
same as in real life
if you are walking within a large crowd no one knows you
but when you step into a store to buy something, there come the credit card and identification
on the receiving end, one could choose to ignore those who do not identify themsleves, e-mails, chats, etc...
the key word here is 'choose'
it would be better than having two webs, one secure and one unregulated