The World’s First Everything-Proof Underground Luxury Community

Oddly reminiscent of Vault-Tec from the Fallout video game franchise...

great! Hopefully this guy will buy all the canned goods i had bought for y2k... those things are really taking up space in my basement.

This guy has a great future at Fox News.
He reminds me of the dumb saps who tried to sell me memberships at a Gym that doesn't exist.

Hmm, in Cali huh? Wonder if when the reallllly big quake hits and/or the Yellowstone super volcano finally blows (where Cali could possibly get engulfed by the ocean) all the while thousand degree liquid lava that can melt steel like butter flows down into the bunker and makes short work of your blast doors and/or the insanely large giant meteor the size of Africa hits square in the Mojave Desert with the force of 100 billion hydrogen bombs-- is it truly is quote "everything proof?"

Furthermore, you actually have to be IN the bunker AT the time of incident! Otherwise you'll never make it anyhow (and by then the blast doors will be closed on anyhow so you'll suffer the fallout anyhow)

I find that to be false advertising!

Do I get my 50% discount now? ;)

Great Googly-moogly - it *IS* Vault 101 !!!

I gotta nickle says this guy even uses a homemade set of criteria to decide who gets in - and I bet he calls it the G.O.A.T. test...

If this guy names himself the Overseer - RUN

What will they do when it's time to come out? How prepared can one truly be towards "rebuilding the world", all by themselves?

Also, just thought of something as i was talking to someone. what good does it do to have the dna of all these species frozen? Unless you have some machine that can build animals simply by scanning a strand of dna which i'm pretty sure we dont have or i'd be riding to work in a chariot pulled by twin wooly mammoths. And good point pioneer10. What good does it do to live a year underground if as soon as you come out there is nohting? Most people dont have the survival skills to make it camping for the weekend anymore much less being able to survive when everything has been destroyed.

Oh i've got it, he'll stock the place with old macgyver episodes and a couple series of man vs wild. that should do it

@ above post. Adaptation or evolution and survival of the fittest. What would take to make an object in 2 days today can take 40+years post apocalypse.. but that does not mean it's impossible.

Almost-Everything Proof.

His customers better not see this YouTube video. Especially at time 0:23.
WARNING: I *wouldn't* raise the volume on your speakers if I were you:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuniKsBxZ10

(ajohnson1986 -just thought of something as i was talking to someone. what good does it do to have the dna of all these species frozen? Unless you have some machine that can build animals simply by scanning a strand of dna.)

this is true however it's been well proven that you do not need an entire barnyard to bring back different animals, for instance it is possible to implant a horse embryo in a cow to have a normal horse born, as long as it is in the same genus (I think) and of near or larger size you can have a cow give birth to horses deer goats ect ect.

now he did say DNA samples not frozen embryos either he is mistaken or the only way it would be of use is if he had someone who could use the DNA to do cloning, but you still need at least some animals to implant the clones otherwise the only alternative is to convince some of the female survivors to volunteer to carry animal embryos to term ;)

"Come on sweety, just think of the fresh milk if you give birth to a cow" ;)
Gives new meaning to the term "don't have a cow dude"

Although interesting.. I agree that there are far more disastrous scenarios that his shelter will in no way provide protection for.

Hell..some of the scenarios could only delay the inevitable
(ie, complex under tons of water; solar radiation blasts, etc).

My real question is in regards to the payment plan.
He claims only $5000 down and the rest upon "entering" the complex during a disaster.
What good will all that money be after a disaster of that magnitude?

"Oddly reminiscent of Vault-Tec from the Fallout video game franchise..."

That was exactly the first thing that came to my mind, as well. lol

( CDales1994-He claims only $5000 down and the rest upon "entering" the complex during a disaster.
What good will all that money be after a disaster of that magnitude? )

actually the article says $5000 down and the rest when it is ready to be moved into, so you have to pay the full amount when all construction and stocking is complete.
not when the disaster happens.

so any one else recognize this from the resident evil movie?

As long as I can get Galaxy News Radio I'm in.

We all laugh now but if something ever did happen we would all be considering selling anything we have to get one of those spots that would all be filled up. Thank you Clifford Cannon you gave me the best laugh I've had in a while (regarding the cow joke). I played Fallout3 to death and one thing that comes to mind is the vault is not so much to protect you from the disaster immediate but the real fallout is always the people left aftterwards scavenging for resources that is your greatest threat. I for one say why wait, let's move in now. I hear crickets and mealworms are perfect protein supplements and could be grown underground easily.

woooowww....okk first of all look at all the room that people can fit in. I mean seriously do we really need towel racks n such? we dont have to live in "luxury" to survive, all the greedy ppl just trying to make money and secondly $50,000 to save a life, thats wrong, if the world does end would the dollar even have monetary value? what if a new currency is implemeneted. All the profit made from this wouldnt really have any value once the end comes. so idk, people should stop thinking financially and maybe just try and save a life...just saying...

rafaelalopez

You have two groups of people here.
One group thinks there might be a disaster, and thinks spending $50.000 now might give them a chance to survive it so it is worth it to them to buy a place in the shelter.

but then you have the group that is building the shelters, they are a company and they get their money as soon as it is finished being built and stocked, yes the entire $50.000 is paid right away in full when the construction is finished.
So they get to use the money now, right now, not after a disaster but right now, they get to live in big houses and drive fast cars right now.
But guess what, I would bet you just about anything they have a place reserved in a shelter for themselves.
And until a disaster actually happens the more shelters they build the more people will buy a place in them the more money they will have to enjoy before any disaster happens and the more survivors there might be.
so, I may not be able to afford one of these shelters, and I also believe any disasters will be man made or so sudden I drought I could get to a shelter anyhow, but do keep building them, if it actually saves humanity then I hope they build thousands of them.

Ok, so it's the end of the world for the next year, give or take. Am I going to check my scissors and tape drawer for my $50,000 receipt to Vicino's Subterraland or am I going to grab my 12 gauge, some beef jerky and water, use my $0.23 compass to draw a 50 mile radius around Barstow on Google Maps (probably this place: 34.829287,-116.336305) and "ask" them to open the door when I get there? We'll see.

==The idea to build and sell post-apocalyptic bunkers weighed on Vicino for many years before he acted. In 1980 he saw a replica of the Mayan calendar, the ancient stone carving that predicts that the world will end on December 21, 2012. Vicino recalls the moment clearly. “It just gave me this gut-wrenching feeling that I needed to convert a mine to a shelter for 1,000 people with everything you’d need to survive for a long period of time.”==

Vincino guy, I like your building the shelters but 2012?
did you know there are decendants of the Mayans alive today?
the Mayan calander is not predicting the end of all things it just ends in 2012.
the calander on my wall at home ends December the 31st. do I think the world will end on December the 31st? no, before that date I will go buy a new one.
as for the decendants of the Mayans? they say the calander ends 2012. that it, it just ends, no disaster no end of all times just it ends, so take a deep breath, relax, and go buy a new calader dude.
there may be a disaster, but the mayan calander is not predicting anything.

Reality check

I don't think your 12 guage shotgun is going to do a lot of damage to a door designed to survive a nuke blast ten miles away.
for that mater you can bring your 12 guage, if they have any brains at all they will have M16s or kalisnikovs or any number of weapons that would make short work of a shotgun.
and a servailance system that would see you coming miles away.

@Reality Check

Clifford Cannon's gotcha there.

@Clifford Cannon

Thank you! People gotta stop buying into this crap. The Mayan calendar has cycled for 3600 years. This cycle ends December 21, 2012 on this run around. Besides, Ancient Mayans could not travel through air and space, or predict the weather. How in the hell are they going to predict the future?!

I survived Y2K, 6/6/6, 9/9/9, and H1N1. I'M COMING FOR YA 2012!!!

"Welcome! to the Federation Starship SS Buttcrack!!!"

can we weld the doors shut from the outside once everyone is in?

@Clifford & Pheonix, You must have gotten tired before finishing the article, "The wiring is shot, the toilets don’t flush, and the 750-kilowatt diesel generator is so environmentally unsound that California law forbids him to run it." By the time the big one hits, he might just have the tiles up in the steam rooms. Hardly worried about the door since the hinges will likely be rusted off...on second thought...you might want to avoid this place at all costs.

Personally I care about how I live, not just if I'm living.

The biggest problem with all of these stupid ideas is even if they are right (not likely), unless you just love the idea going up in the mountains and living until you die (and you can do it), what would you have? You won't be rebuilding society at least not as you now know it (think more like third world country society at best). Our modern society is so interrelated and takes large numbers of people all doing their jobs, and resources (can anyone say nuclear contamination or no sunlight for years because of a super volcano?)

I have a feeling that the majority of the money being made off of this is going into the "Celebratory Cocaine and Prostitute" fund for this guy. The people buying into this are getting taken for a massive ride and, in the event that a world-changing catastrophe takes place and these people can actually GET to this place while that's happening, they are more likely to find a sign reading something close to "Haha I have all your monies" then something that could save them from an apocalyptic event.

I would avoid this place, different ppl trapped in a small area is never a good place to be.

you got a good point there reality check :) would I trust my life to a strangers construction if he is not going to be in the same shelter? no way!
take my $50.000 and build my own shelter ;)

tcolguin

so, just becouse you would have to do without all the luxuries of modern socioty you would just give up and die?

you know it would be hard, but if it is possable at all then the survivers would be no worse off then our ancesters who had no TVs and computers and dominos deliveries, and no modern medicine so yes, you would work hard to survive and die young but your children would live and have thier children and grand children.

so do you just give up? or take the hard road and try to make a better life for your children and a future for all mankind.

but then again if you do plan and you can prepair then you can have a tractor in storage and you can have other farm equipment and you can make your own fuil from corn alcohol or any number of other fermentation processes, and yes the tractor would break down but a machine shop could keep it going for ages longer then we tend to keep them and rebuilding them would teach your children how to repair and build thier own in the machine shop.
as for raw materials to work with? well the steel from an empty building could make good tools and parts and with all the junk we have today scavenging could last for a long time giving the decendants time to build for a new future.
so really, if your smart and do it right you don't have to live like the worst of the third world or even like the peaple of a couple thousand years ago, you could live very well like the pensylvania dutch.

hard yes, but you better bet I would do everything I could if I was in a position to do it.

Wow, page 5 is very descriptive.

Step 1: Find and buy a chunk of farmable land you can realistically drive to, preferably with a water supply.

Step 2: Dig a well anyway, you know you'll need it.

Step 3: Dig a big damn hole.

Step 4: Drop one of these into it.
www.containerhomes.net/earthquake-haite-2010-help-donate-shipping-containers.html

Step 5: Put a door in the top, wire up your solar panels and install a ventilator.

$50,000 is a lot of money, and it seems like it will take 70 of those 135 seats to pay for this place (still, 3.25 million is a right nice profit margin).

For anyone with a sizable family, creating your own shelter is a far more reasonable endevour. While increased scale can reduce costs, it also increases the fragility of the system.

For example, how many psycopaths or crying babies will it take to create a death count? Sure, 12g nutjob is not getting in, but what about the person with a ticket who is a bit late? Compromise the air quality, or screw out a paying customer? Actually, why let in anyone at all? You have the facility for 135 paid for by others. Why not move in your two dozen friends and family (who never paid you a dime) and lock the blast doors?

Shelter from what?...and for how long? The foggy paranoia underlying this scam is blatant. This is Chicken Little gone mainstream. I have a better idea: we stay put and work together to build a sane, fair and compassionate world.

If the end does come, I hope I have the courage of Techumseh, who said "When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home."

First the end of the world and the end of people are entirely different things.

Buying into a safe room to protect you from the end of the world makes about as much sense as buying into special seats on an airplane just in case it crashes.

Its the end of the world, its a safe bet the bunker will go with it. And besides even if it's the end of people you have to come out eventually, and to what? No people, food, or even oxygen depending on what's taken place (Bet he didn't think about oxygen).

Not sure I'd want to survive to see it.

As far as 2012, seriously? Why are people always trying to cook up the end of the world? Its narcissistic in a way. We think we are so important that a planet that has been around for billions of years will spontaneously end because of our drop in the bucket 150,000 year existence.

Short of nuclear catastrophe its not likely. Maybe an asteroid? Which irony would have it destined for one of this guys apocalypse bunkers. Remember it was suppose to be the year 2000 that it all ends, now since that didn't happen its on to 2012. The guy in this article is so anxious for it he's got bets placed on 2013 in case the Mayan's math was wrong I guess.

If we spent as much time building a better world as we do preparing for it to end we'd be much better off.

I think his choice the build in California is just wrong. He should have choosen a state that is largely Republican ! (^_^)

I would not consider something like this unless I was wealthy enough that the cost would be pocket change to me, and if that was the case I would do it, and do it my way ;)
not so much because I expect the end of the entire world or the end of the human race but there is always the possibility of a war, and maybe that war will not end everything or end humanity but if it left the city I lived in looking like Berlin or London after the 2nd WW or Hiroshima or Nagasaki in Japan then it would be a good place to shelter the storm.
I would stock and equip it like I was planning to rebuild the world not because I expect all humanity to be destroyed except my little band of survivors but because a really nasty nuclear war could leave the worlds survivors few and far apart, then such resources would help to find usable land drinkable water and breathable air and help to unite any near survivors.

but most of all, as I do not expect anything worse then a nasty war it would give me piece of mind knowing I had it and I could pass it on to my family if nothing severe happens within my lifetime.

nd36

I would have chosen one that is not nearly so prone to earthquakes ;)

but then again he is rebuilding an old military bomb shelter and there are just not that meny of them for sale ;)

Are they taking steps to make sure there are enough women?

General "Buck" Turgidson: Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn't that necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?

Dr. Strangelove: Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious... service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.

Ambassador de Sadesky: I must confess, you have an astonishingly good idea there, Doctor.

Problems I see: 1) In the "end of civilization" scenarios when you would use this, there is no law, and no expectation of the law reappearing. So any contracts you sign with this company aren't worth the paper they are printed on. You show up expecting to be let in and, why exactly would the caretaker let you in? Because you signed a contract? Ha.

2) This place needs air. It would be very easy to block up the air-supply vents once you found them with rocks/dirt/garbage, thus "smoking out" anyone inside, or killing them. (I'd build my "vault" up in rocky/hill area surrounded by granite boulders.)

3) Cali isn't going anywhere nor it is going to be flooded etc. Its been here for millions of years. You won't have to worry about nature getting you, its the humans you have deal with and desperate people are really dangerous. Vaults will only work if essentially no one knows about them.

$50k/person is a lot of money to share a space with people who will have problems you don't want to deal with. Imagine the drama of a bunch of sniveling rich people wondering who's going to serve them their drinks and clean their pools when it's time to exit the shelter? I can just see it now, Buffy breaks her high heel shoe, her make up runs and looks like a clown after crying for a half hour, an unmitigated disaster!

Survival is for those whose outlook on life doesn't revolve around the latest fashion trend and is willing to start from scratch. If you don't like the camping scene, then don't bother wasting your money on a shelter because sissies won't make it anyhow never mind having to put up with the drama.

Why not trench a hole large enough for a mobile home with a concrete slab over it with the appropriate water tight damper openings for ventilation and exit? Stock it with MREs, ammo, meds, books on tape, batteries, etc. and your set. There are plenty of abandoned ore and coal mines that could be reinforced and are big enough to wheel hundreds of mobile homes into if you don't think trenching is deep enough.

The interior renders look like IKEA branded Scandinavian prison cells.

Anyone see any similarities between this and 2012?

Maybe they should have a "trial run"- a half-year inside one of these places w/ the only eligible individuals being chosen from people who have bought occupancy there. You could make it into a type of reality series, with the facility's ability to fend off everything from supervolcanic ash to radioactive fallout to (even) above ground survivors "unhappy" about being left out of these "oases of hope". Would anyone reading this watch?

Dam, they really are getting ready for 2012! Definitely looks nice, but they will need sunlight to survive!

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"... The World’s First Everything-Proof ..."

Well, clearly it is not "scam-proof"...

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These guys are a joke. I actually contacted them and filled out their "application" to see where things would go. I guess I was what they needed at my local shelter since within 24 hours of filling out the application, the "selection committee" selected me! I guess I was the perfect candidate for the community - i.e., my check would clear. So much for the rigorous testing to balance out each location.

Problem is, when it comes time to rely on others, these guys are the last group of people I would trust to remain quiet and confidential about the site. Add to that all the constructions guys that helped build, retrofit, dig, or decorate and there are too many opportunities to blow my little secret.

On the Terra Vivos website, these guys asked how I wished to be contacted via a check box on the application. I selected, phone only (no email) - didn't want the wife to know, and within a day or two, I started getting emails from them. They were unable to follow their own policy, how could I trust them to keep a secret and build something I would rely on if they can't follow something a simple as phone or email?

Then, the rest of the problems hit me. Big accident occurs, all the owners rush to the site along with the non owners, friends, relatives, neighbors, curious and desperate locals. I guess the sign on the door that says, only owners may enter, will keep them away. Or is it my fellow owners that will have my back as they decide when to lock the vault as I am driving there to insure they are safe. Or perhaps there is a guy I can trust checking licenses or property titles at the door. Or perhaps it is the fact that nobody would dream of bringing extra people to the shelter.

Bottom line, if you feel the need to have a survival shelter, you better handle it yourself. There are companies out there that can quietly build what you need, places to buy food, and land that can be purchased without hundreds of people knowing your business.

If you ask me, these guys are out to make a fast buck and hope nobody really thinks through all the problems and issues associated with this idea. Could the problems be fixed, yes. Will Terra Vivos fix them, I doubt it.

See ya in 2012!

It bothers me that people will actually invest in ventures like this!

To hell with these vaults, come nuclear doomsday - I'm moving to Megaton.

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I just finished a book called "Swan Song" and this reminds me of Blue Dome Mountain. By the way, it didn't fare to well. Some things you can't account for.

Interesting how people always claim they know when a great disaster happens. No, sorry, nobody knows when such a thing will happen. What I do find interesting is that nearly 2000 years ago even they knew people would attempt to build underground bunkers to protect them from such a disaster.

I believe John wrote in Revelation 6:15 (in the KJV Bible):

"And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains"

Believe it or not, it still is fascinating man thinks they can survive such an all encompassing calamity, religious or atheist.

Nevertheless, I do not doubt people will build such things.

My advice to people paying for such things would be, "only trust solid granite" and never crawl down a hole that can collapse and trap you there.

Hey fellow survivalists your more likely to die by accident before December 21 2012 than any major disaster except for a personal one.
Well this is definitely a rip off for those poor bastards that gave this guy their money.

Gold is always a good investment if any kind of monetary society survives a ELE .
Would you really want to survive if every one else is dead ?,and the world would be a different place to us all.
Oh ya WAR it never changes.
PEACE Brothers and Sisters may you live a very long and happy life LOL.

So, what we've got here is a way for the rich elite to survive a major national or global disaster... TYPICAL!

Youse guys are all wet! I bought in and am selling my share on ebay! $1 STARTING BID, NO RESERVE, AND BUY IT NOW AT $1,000,000.

Geeze am I gonna be rich!

With my huge profit I'm going to build a rocket with a bunck of bunk beds and sell them for $10,000 each. Then when disaster strikes we will just blast off! We'll come back when it's over.

Unfortunately, you have to buy your snacks on-board.

Hey, don't give me that look! It worked for this guy didn't it?

I imagine that mental disorders among paranoid Chicken Littlers would only be exacerbated once they are locked inside together with other paranoid strangers.

Imagine the level of fear and suspicion among people who paid for this security, who now face trying to start over in an enclosed world with new neighbors who are just as fuity and nutty as they are. I would love to be a fly on the wall -- speaking of which, what if bedbugs and cockroaches hitchhike a ride inside? That would be the end of pleasantries in the underground bunker as we know it.

And disease... a few unknowingly contagious people carry microbes inside, get sick, spread their poison and then we have a failsafe hospital with no meds and a morgue with no undertaker. (Where will they bury the bodies?)

After reading this article I may as well kill myself now! Live each day to the fullest! Love others, make a difference, improve your community and plan for the future. If one thinks they can avert cataclysmic disaster, they are a greater fool than me! Do not life in fear, live in faith!!!

Reminds me of Miller's "A Canticle for Liebowitz" (snipurl.com/canticle-liebowitz) -- a book they won't want in the bunker library.

Hmmm, Plasma TV on the wall, wonder if he is going to offer WIFI as well .. what a scam.

What we have to fear in 2012 doesn't require a bunker that people can plug breathing holes up on. What we have to fear is "People" when the power grids are blown out by the solar storm NASA predicts. The solar storm is suppose to be the strongest in 150 years. 150 tears ago, it fried a few telegraph wires, no big deal. In 2012, it will likely cripple our entire infrastructure, from satellites through financial communication to the power grids. There will be TOTAL Martial Law declared!

The Government is actually counting on this, and they are doing nothing to protect the grids, they want it to happen, it is part of their plan for the NWO.