A Satellite View Of Glacial Melting

So soon people can go back to farming greenland like they used to before it froze over.

Meanwhile the Wicked Witch of the West was browsing the internet and came across this article. Later that day, some friends came over her house and found her hiding in the corner of her room, mumbling, we're melting, melting, oh what a terrible world....

But other than that, human induced global warming is bad!

Interesting. The sizes seem to be wrong all over the place.

Diameter, as reported here by Popsci is 12 miles. Actual diameter, at its widest using the image in the video is approx. 12.5 KM. That's only 7.767 miles.

In the video, the narrator says it is 12 square miles. The length, as mentioned, was approx. 7.8 miles and the width was approx. 11KM which is about 6.8 miles. That's 53 square miles.

Other sources on the internet report 130 square KM and 50 square miles. 130 square KM = 50 square miles. I wonder which is correct?

Also, the video says the ice island was half the size of Manhattan. At 23 square miles, 12 square miles would have indeed been half. As mentioned though, the actual size was a little over 50 square miles, putting it twice the size of Manhattan. This is also mentioned on multiple other sources.

NASA and Popsci: ( Please tell me NASA didn't actually make the video, but had an outside source handle it...)

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=size+of+peterman+ice+island+2012

Oh no! The ice is melting!!! What ever shall we do? How about let nature run its course and do its thing for starters. It cannot be coincidence that all of the planets or moons orbiting our sun with polar caps of some solid precipitate have started to recede. Sure, we may have higher CO2 concentrations than in previous ages, but, that also means that plant life grows faster and more abundant. Face facts. We are only insignificant specks on this planet and we have no real impact on its long term weather patterns. Our species and almost every other has lived through ice ages, warm periods, and everything in between. Let this AGW crap just go.

Stop pushing false science as a reason for us to change. I'm all for change, but don't cram it down peoples' collective throats with this almost religious zealotry.

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SgtB, You're overlooking a very critical point about Global Warming: People. Yes, the earth and mother nature will be fine and work things out for themselves, but societies have built up large cities in very distinct areas and farmland in others. We are not prepared to shift these areas to accommodate for changing global weather patterns. The midwestern US was scorched by record heat and droughts this year. That's where a large portion of our cattle and crops come from. While they were burning, the Southeast was having a wonderful mild and rainy year, but too much rain there can ruin the crops such as peanuts that are traditionally grown there.

The reality is we won't be able to move people to new regions. They will be reluctant to leave, to adjust. They most likely will wait too long to adapt.

Another critical factor to remember is that if we don't slow or stop the massive CO2 production, we will rapidly increase the damage. This means even more extreme temperatures and more pollution. CO2 is heavy and likes to sit right next to the ground where we live. Large cities already have higher reports of health complications due to smog. Atlanta, during the 1996 Olympics, was used for a study that showed a 28% drop in ER admissions at local hospitals for patients suffering from respiratory problems such as asthma. During the Olympics, several streets were shut down and public transportation usage increased. Immediately following the Olympics, admissions went back to their normal levels.

Climate Change is a multifaceted problem that will have to be acknowledged and dealt with one way or another.

If GW is man made, then either we will adapt or we will have a population setback event and the world will rebalance as our population rebuilds. Worst case is a total extinction, which would simply let some other species rise to the occasion (or fulfill prophecy, depending on your worldview).

Worrying about it changes nothing. Trying to control something that took all of human industry to move is ridiculous. All you can do is observe change and adapt.

Its the Sun Stupid. Lets see what happens on Dec 21, 2012. Perhaps a large Burp from our beloved life giving Star? THe sun shedding its outer layers would be quite devistating. Let us pray that we have only a gradual increase in the Sea Level. Anything drastic and many will die. The energies involved in these models are STAGGERING. Even a slight increase in these energy levels will be a hard thing overcome. As said before, we are very tiny in comparison to these forces. One thing manmade climate problems do... they give credence to the idea that the changes will most likely be gradual and small. If they take a turn for the worse though... ouch.

"Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no spoon."

Oakspar77777, if everyone followed your logic nothing in human history would ever have gotten done. CO2 emissions are real and are a very real threat. You can google some numbers for yourself and do some basic math to see that 1,000,000,000 lbs of CO2 is emitted by US cars alone each week. That leaves out all other countries and the large amounts created by industrial processes.

The Ozone layer depletion is also real and actually has been halted in growth since awareness and laws were introduced by the Montreal Protocol to control the use of the chemicals that caused it.

You may want to sit around and place your bets on surviving a globally damaging event, but I do not.

D13,
Sir, on 21 December 2012, not a lot will happen. Feel free to sleep in that day.

However, on 22 December 2012, aliens, looking a lot like Mayans and will be handing out the new calander all across the world will visit us. Try to get the ones with the Mayan female swimsuit edition. It is really out of this world! ;)

Antarctica icesheet covers more sqkms now,in the history of its research. Arctic is regaining its ice now at a phenomenal rate. A large arctic summer storm caused most of its ice to breakup. Maunder,dalton minimums were real, it got colder,scary cold back then which is documented... as solar activity via sunspots failed. That is what is happening now since the late 1990s. There is a measured drop in mean world temps. Time will tell as we wait for the next iceage cycle. Oh wait,it never ended.. ya see ..were actually in an interglacial. North and South pole ice never melts completely like it did for our ancient reptiles.look outside the AGW box that's my opinion.

It's amusing to watch these AGW proponents conveniently ignore the growth of the Antarctic ice mass

First off, look at a satellite map of Antarctica from 1960 and compare it to today. That's a big difference.

Second, please don't confuse climate change and extreme weather with some simple "oh the world is supposed to get hot" fallacy because scientists used the term "Global Warming." Ice will still come and go in parts of the world. No one said it wouldn't except people who don't understand the impact of climate change.

Not to mention the amount of methane that is trapped in permafrost that will be released. This will prepetuate the issue with methane which is 25 times more efficient at trapping heat. Global warming may take on a whole new twist as we cross the trip-wires.

"Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth. There is no spoon."

Glacial melting is a result of global warming. We should stop this at any cost.
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