Even without a telescope, it’s possible to look off the summit of Mauna Kea and see, 14,000 feet below and dozens of miles in the distance, wide swaths of rain forest touching the whitecapped Pacific. Down there, people are doing what people come to Hawaii to do: hiking to waterfalls, lying in the sand, exposing their skin to tropical solar radiation. Up here, there is no vegetation, no warmth and very little atmosphere. And as the sun sets over the parabolic aluminum dishes of the Submillimeter Array observatory, it’s time to work.
Sheperd Doeleman, the 45-year-old MIT researcher in charge of tonight’s experiment, is setting up a piece of the radio telescope that, if all goes well, will synchronize with other radio telescopes in California and Arizona to observe matter on the verge of disappearing into a black hole. Doeleman and his counterparts on the mainland are using a technique called very long baseline interferometry to simulate a much larger instrument, which they call the Event Horizon Telescope. The longer the baseline, the higher the resolution, so these astronomers have for the past decade or so been hauling their delicate and expensive hand-built equipment to remote sites around the world, installing it anew for each observation. The work is highly improvisational, but to see what they want to see, there is no other way.
Outside the Submillimeter Array’s control-room windows, patches of snow speckle the summit. The storm that deposited them several days ago has since traveled 2,500 miles east, where it has been blocking all observation at the station in California, thus delaying the whole observing run. Things are going better tonight. Or at least they’re starting to. “It looks like we’re actually recording something,” Doeleman says. “Which is nice.”
“The Mark 5Bs are recording,” says Nicolas Pradel, a postdoctoral researcher from Taiwan’s Academia Sinica Institute of Astronomy and Astrophysics. The Mark 5B recorders are connected to the James Clerk Maxwell Telescope next door, which is contributing its 15-meter dish to tonight’s effort. “The Mark 5Cs”—the newest, highest-bandwidth recorders, and the ones hooked up to the Submillimeter Array—“are not.”
Doeleman, a slight man with a runner’s build, sprints out of the room and runs downstairs, where the recorders are installed. A few minutes later, he darts back into the control room, panting in the thin mountain air. He sits back down at his computer, pounds out a few keystrokes and mumbles something technical and reassuring to the postdocs and telescope operators. The recorders appear to be working.
A black hole should cast a shadow. The goal is to capture an image of that shadow.Three arrays is just a start. Doeleman and his cohort have been operating this same network of radio telescopes since 2007, when they pointed the array at the galactic center and detected “structure on the event-horizon scale,” a deeply obscured blip in space whose dimensions match the predicted size of Sagittarius A* (pronounced “A-star”), the four-million-solar-mass black hole at the center of the Milky Way. After that, with encouragement from colleagues, Doeleman decided that peering deeper into the galactic center, deep enough to actually take a picture of the very edge of Sagittarius A*, was not as implausible as it sounds. Detectors were becoming more sensitive every year; data storage and processing power had never been so cheap. If he could add the right telescopes to his network, taking a picture of Sagittarius A* should be, as Doeleman puts it, “eminently doable.”
Over the next few years, Doeleman says, he and his group will combine as many as a dozen of the world’s most sophisticated radio-astronomy installations to create “the biggest telescope in the history of humanity”—a virtual dish the size of Earth, with 2,000 times the resolution of the Hubble Space Telescope. Tonight the Event Horizon Telescope astronomers have a more limited goal: They want to catch as much light from Sagittarius A* as possible and study its polarization to learn about the black hole’s magnetic field. But eventually (if all goes well) astronomers using the fully scaled-up Event Horizon Telescope—a machine with resolution high enough to read the date on a quarter from 3,000 miles away—will see the silhouette of an object that is, in itself, unseeable.

Einstein was impressed by Schwarzschild’s math, but he rejected one of his predictions—that a dense enough star would collapse under its own gravity into an infinitely small, infinitely dense point. Einstein insisted that some force of nature that Schwarzschild had ignored would prevent this implosion. The most prominent physicists of the era agreed with Einstein. Black holes, as we now call them, violated so many intuitive ideas about how the universe should work that they met with what the California Institute of Technology theorist Kip Thorne called “widespread and almost universal 20th-century resistance.”
Yet in the following decades, physicists became increasingly convinced that Schwarzschild was right. In 1939 Robert Oppenheimer, the physicist who would later lead the Manhattan Project, built on Schwarzschild’s work (plus two additional decades of research on general relativity) to develop the most persuasive case yet that certain stars, upon exhaustion of their nuclear fuel, would collapse under their own gravity. In the 1950s, using computer models coded to simulate the detonation of hydrogen bombs, both American and Soviet physicists independently generated the most sophisticated mathematical arguments yet that when sufficiently massive stars die, implosion is inevitable.
In the 1960s astronomers started finding empirical evidence, however indirect, that black holes weren’t merely mathematical constructs, but that they actually existed. Nothing but enormous black holes, for example, could power quasars—points of light, some of them at the edge of the observable universe, that shine with the luminosity of hundreds of galaxies. In the 1990s astronomers found that stars near the center of galaxies were orbiting at millions of miles per hour. Such speeds made sense only if those stars were orbiting black holes.
Most physicists now accept the existence of black holes—regions of space where gravity becomes infinitely powerful, matter becomes infinitely dense, time freezes and light becomes trapped. Black holes come in two main varieties: stellar-mass holes, which remain after a star collapses, and supermassive ones, which scientists now say sit at the core of all galaxies. At the center of every black hole is a singularity, a point at which our understanding of the laws of physics breaks down. At the edge of every black hole is a boundary called the event horizon, which separates the hole from the rest of the universe. The event horizon is, as Doeleman says, “a one-way membrane in space-time” that leads to “someplace causally distinct from where we are now.” It’s an exit door from the universe with a strict reentry policy: What passes through can never come back.
No one has ever seen an event horizon, but they should be seeable. Theorists predict that the extreme warping of time and space around a black hole’s event horizon should create a telltale shadow, a pitch-black circle surrounded by a blazing ring of light. The ultimate goal of the Event Horizon Telescope is to capture an image of that shadow.
The project’s success would make it possible to see how the theory of general relativity holds up at the edge of a black hole, the most extreme environment in the universe. It would also provide unequivocal evidence that black holes exist—something often taken for granted but not yet proven. “Now we can ask the question,” says Avery Broderick, a theorist at the University of Waterloo and an EHT collaborator. “That really will motivate a discussion. There’s no point arguing about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin until you can find an angel dancing on the head of a pin.”
One hundred fifty thousand trillion miles from Mauna Kea, Sagittarius A* is spinning radiation into the cosmos. Electrons and ions that once belonged to dust clouds and stars orbit the black hole at nearly the speed of light, whirling around its 140-million-mile circumference once every 24 minutes and along the way throwing off radiation that spans the electromagnetic spectrum. A tiny fraction of the radiation that fled Sagittarius A* 26,000 years ago will tonight make its way to Earth. An even tinier fraction of that radiation will fall on the summit of Mauna Kea, some of it striking the collecting dishes of the mountain’s radio-telescope antennas.
If everything works properly, the collecting dishes will funnel the arriving radio waves into helium-cooled receivers, which will beam them to the control room through buried fiber-optic cables. The signals will be amplified, digitized and time-stamped by a hydrogen maser, a $300,000 air-conditioner-size atomic clock that loses only one second every 10 million years. Next, the signals will be recorded on 8-terabyte hard-drive packs, which the astronomers will then FedEx back to the EHT’s “lens”—a supercomputer-powered correlator at MIT’s Haystack Observatory outside Boston.
At Haystack, a technician will take the data packs from all three sites involved in the observation—the Submillimeter Array and James Clerk Maxwell Telescope in Hawaii, the Combined Array for Research in Millimeter-wave Astronomy (CARMA) in California, and the Submillimeter Telescope (SMTO) in Arizona—and attempt to sort the signal from the noise. Despite being cooled to four degrees above absolute zero, telescope receivers produce a steady thrum of noise 100,000 times as powerful as the signal from the cosmos. “Riding on top of the noise is a little bit of a signal that—except for a time difference and a bit of a frequency shift—is the same from station to station,” explains Jonathan Weintroub, the astronomer and electrical engineer who is in charge of the EHT’s instrumentation at the Submillimeter Array. “The signal that is the same from station to station is the signal from the source.”
For maximum clarity, all of this has to work properly at every station. And at the Submillimeter Array, at least, everything does appear to be running properly. A little after 7 p.m., with the software cross-checked, the antennas phased up and the recorders finally working, the 12-hour observation sequence begins. Doeleman passes around a duffel bag filled with snacks from Trader Joe’s. (“You have to try the mission figs!”) I sit down next to Ryan Howie, a 20-something telescope operator who’s been working at the Submillimeter Array since this group’s first observations in 2007, and ask whether tonight’s warm-up was abnormally chaotic. Not at all, he says. “Things are actually going much more smoothly than they did on the first couple of runs.”

The conditions at the other sites are far from ideal. The tau at CARMA is disturbingly high. The tau at SMTO is excellent, but so far, airborne ice crystals have prevented the telescope operators from opening the dome and exposing the satellite dish to the atmosphere. Passable weather at those sites will have to do, though. The snowstorms in California and Arizona over the past three days have forced Doeleman and crew to cede their telescope time to other astronomers and spend their nights brooding 5,000 feet below at Hale Pohaku, the dorm where astronomers sleep and eat and prepare for their observations.
Tonight is the second-to-last chance the Event Horizon Telescope will have this year to do its work. Telescope time is a scarce resource; the time-allocation committees at the various observatories have given Doeleman and his group three nights for this run. To increase the probability of getting good weather at all three sites, they can pick any three nights during an eight-night window. They could, in theory, observe more than once a year, but that would require more money, more travel and more logistical wrangling. They could also, in theory, get a longer observation window (and they have in the past), but it would require everyone to spend even longer on this mountain, waiting for the spheres to align.
The Event Horizon Telescope could provide the first unequivocal evidence that black holes do, in fact, exist.Each day around noon, Doeleman gets the weather forecasts for all three sites and makes the call for the night: Go or no go? “It drives Shep crazy,” Weintroub says. They’re working on ways to make this decision less painful. A crucial step will be to permanently install the EHT’s custom digital equipment at every station in the array, so that when the weather is good at all sites, they could trigger an observation remotely, on short notice. This is mostly a matter of securing cooperation from the committees that control the telescopes and raising the money to install the equipment. Better weather forecasts would also help. On Mauna Kea, getting accurate weather information is not a problem. Because the mountain is home to 11 observatories, many of them the most powerful instruments of their kind, Mauna Kea has its own dedicated weather station. That’s not the case at smaller observatories such as SMTO and CARMA, and that makes it hard for Doeleman to know when to observe.
Around midnight, the Submillimeter Array has its dishes trained on the black hole at the center of the nearby galaxy M87, which rises four hours before Sagittarius A*. Doeleman picks up a landline phone (cellphones are forbidden because they would interfere with the instruments) and calls the telescope operator in Arizona to find out when they’ll be opening the dome. After a few seconds, he hangs up. “Yes!” he says. “SMTO’s opening the dome and should be observing in about 30 minutes.”
“Just in time to get two scans on M87,” says Rurik Primiani, the 25-year-old MIT graduate monitoring the Submillimeter Array’s antennas.
The good news has Doeleman feeling talkative. He spends a little time telling the postdocs about the technological impediments he faced 15 or 20 years ago as a grad student being introduced to the laborious art of very long baseline interferometry. The fieldwork is what attracted Doeleman to astronomy. He was never, as he puts it, the kid who played with telescopes. But he was the kind of kid who thought that spending the winter in Antarctica sounded like fun. At the age of 22, after graduating from Reed College in his hometown of Portland, Oregon, he joined a yearlong expedition to Antarctica to study cosmic rays. Afterward, he enrolled in graduate school at MIT. He chose to focus on very long baseline interferometry in part because of the high probability of spending weeks on top of cold, dry mountains in remote places.

“What did I break?” Weintroub says from across the room.
Doeleman hangs up the phone and explains that for some reason, the SMTO is not yet working. Details are sketchy. But we’re already on the 12th scan of the night, and the conditions in Arizona are fantastic—the tau there has now dropped to 0.05, as good as it gets in the continental U.S.—so after pacing around the control room for a few minutes, Doeleman calls back for an update. “Now it’s what?” he asks. “‘Going crazy’? Is that a technical term?” A muted, guilty snicker spreads among the postdocs.
Sheperd Doeleman collapses into a folding aluminum chair. “As you can see,” he says, “this is hard.”Two hours from now, Sagittarius A* rises. The stakes tonight are higher than usual: NASA’s Chandra satellite is joining in, watching Sagittarius A* for x-ray flares that, when combined with the data from the EHT, could provide information about how the black hole changes by the hour. Such a finding would at least be enough for a paper in a major journal, and certainly enough to justify the money and man-hours spent conducting this observing run. So Doeleman exercises all the control he possibly can. He asks the telescope operator to call the chief faculty member at the University of Arizona in the middle of the night and ask him to get there immediately. “Tell him, ‘Shep threatened my life unless I called you.’”
Half an hour later, Doeleman receives an e-mail from Arizona and reads aloud: “There is ‘no chance whatsoever’ ” that they will be back online tonight. The group now faces a decision. It’s still relatively early. They could cede the remainder of tonight to other astronomers. Or they could continue with the two-station array. They weigh the options.
Weintroub swivels away from his laptop and says to Doeleman, “You’ve got the satellite coverage tonight from Chandra.” Doeleman nods. Satellite coverage is not something to squander. After a moment Doeleman says, “If Chandra detects a flare, we could do some very interesting science.”
And after all, they are here. The station in California is observing. They’re running out of nights. And so the observation continues, with the first scan of Sagittarius A* scheduled for 2:05 a.m. Decision made, Doeleman collapses into a folding aluminum chair and says to me, “As you can see, this is hard.”

The first and most important method was the same one the Event Horizon Telescope uses today—connecting multiple geographically distant radio telescopes to form an interferometer, which adds together waves collected at different telescopes to produce a new, stronger wave. In the early 1960s, almost as soon as the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia, was completed, astronomers started pointing its two-station interferometer at the galactic center. Then in 1966, observing relatively low-frequency radio waves, astronomers there detected the first signs of what we now know as Sagittarius A*. The resolution was far too low to yield a definitive observation, but eight years later, Green Bank astronomers using an upgraded interferometer capable of capturing higher-frequency waves proved that something extremely dense and bright existed at the center of the galaxy. Something was sitting at the core like a gyroscope, hovering in place while the rest of the Milky Way churned around it. Eight years later, one of the astronomers named the object—which, when viewed from Earth, appears to lie in the constellation Sagittarius—Sagittarius A*.
Since then, increasingly sensitive detectors and more powerful computers have enabled radio astronomers to observe at ever-higher frequencies and peer deeper into the center of the galaxy with greater clarity. Higher frequency radiation, which consists of shorter wavelengths, provides finer resolution. More important, the radiation that comes from the most extreme environment in the galactic center—the very edge of the event horizon—tends to be very high-frequency. At wavelengths longer than two millimeters, observing the galactic center is “like looking through frosted glass in the bathroom,” Doeleman says. At wavelengths of one millimeter and below, the frosted glass “magically clarifies.”
To capture those one-millimeter waves, astronomers have to travel. Atmospheric water vapor blocks waves in the one-millimeter range, which is why high-frequency radio telescopes are built in places where the atmosphere is thin and arid enough to let the one-millimeter light in. High, dry places like Mauna Kea. Places like the 17,000-foot plateau in Chile’s Atacama Desert (the world’s driest) where the Atacama Large Millimeter Array is under construction.
The telescope should see a disc of darkness surrounded by a glowing halo.ALMA, soon to become the world’s most powerful radio-telescope array, is expected to join the Event Horizon Telescope array in 2015. Once it does, it will become the critical station in Doeleman’s planet-spanning array. With ALMA on board, the EHT needs to add two, maybe three more key telescopes to approach the data-gathering capacity it will take to see Sagittarius A*’s event horizon. The EHT crew will also need to install their most advanced equipment—including the new recorders currently under development at Haystack, which should record data eight times as fast as the ones they use today—at every station. But once that’s done, their virtual telescope should be able to gather enough data to make an image.
Like all radio-telescope images, the picture will be an encoded map of a small patch of sky—a map of the immediate vicinity of Sagittarius A* in which the brightness of each pixel represents the intensity of radiation coming from that speck of space. It could take one excellent night to get it; it could take several very good nights of combined data. But at the end of some observing run, there will be a picture.
Theorists have used supercomputers to predict what the picture should look like. If the black hole is calm, the telescope should see a disc of darkness surrounded by a glowing halo, like an eclipse. One side of the disc may contain a fat blob of light. That’s a hotspot, a clumped-up cloud of accreting matter orbiting the event horizon. If Sagittarius A* is caught consuming some giant cloud of matter, the black hole may look like a ball of fire.
Doeleman is quick to emphasize that the EHT will be gathering data years before and after Sagittarius A*’s shadow first comes into focus. The more telescopes Doeleman can add, the finer the detail they’ll be able to resolve. Yet some theorists argue that, scientifically, the picture is almost beside the point. “I don’t think the end-all and be-all of this is producing an image,” Broderick says. “Eventually there will be an image, but it won’t tell us much more.” Viewed this way, the image is candy. Viewed this way, the Event Horizon Telescope is a science project designed to generate, almost by accident, a work of art.

The news is almost painful. Sure, if the data from tonight turns out decent and Chandra detects a flare, then the night could yield interesting findings, despite the failure of the telescope in Arizona. And there’s always tomorrow. But for now, the crew appears to be treating the night’s observation as an exercise in perseverance.
Doeleman leans back in an office chair and closes his eyes. Weintroub lies down on the floor and promptly falls asleep. Everyone else continues monitoring their computers. Two and a half hours pass in which nothing happens, which is really the way these things are supposed to go. Boring is good for radio astronomy. In his 1987 book First Light, the writer Richard Preston describes sitting in the control room at the Palomar Mountain observatory in California with some of the greatest astronomers of the age, watching dozens of galaxies never before seen by human eyes scroll across the observation screen. It doesn’t work like that here. For now, the EHT is like a half-built long-exposure camera that yields clues and promises rather than actual pictures.
By 5 a.m., everyone is awake, and Rurik Primiani, still sitting behind his control monitors, is getting restless. “Think we have enough data now?” he asks Doeleman. “The question is whether we’re getting any data,” Doeleman replies. “Who knows what CARMA’s doing. Pretty sure we know what SMTO’s doing.”
Things become very still. Inspired by the witching hour, I ask Doeleman a question I had asked him before: Why black holes? “A black hole is the only place in the universe where you can go but you can’t come back,” he says. “In theory, if you could build the right spaceship, you could go to the center of the sun and come back. You could go to the center of a neutron star. You’d be like, ‘Whoa, it’s so dense in here!’” he says, waving his arms in a mime’s struggle to escape from a neutron-star box. “But you could come back,” he says. “You could never come back from a black hole. And that’s creepy. It creeps me out.”
A little after 6 a.m., as Doeleman rouses the postdocs and prepares to power down the machine, Weintroub and I decide to go watch the sun rise. “That was frustrating as hell,” he says, as we drive up the paved road to the true summit. All this preparation, perfect weather in Hawaii—all crippled by a broken drive motor on the telescope in Arizona. But, then, if the SMTO group can get their telescope fixed, and the weather holds at all three stations, tomorrow night could be good. “One good night makes it all worthwhile,” he says.
Scientists estimate that the Milky Way alone could contain millions of black holes. The ubiquity of something so violent, so absurd, so incomprehensible is enough to needle at our sense of existential unease. Black holes are creepy. They remind us, as philosophers have been reminding us for centuries, that we never see the world in itself. We only see its shadows.
The following night, Doeleman later told me, went quite well. Technicians fixed the malfunctioning motor at SMTO. The weather held at all the sites. And our picture of the black hole at the center of the galaxy grew a little sharper.
A few weeks later, looking for perspective on the Event Horizon Telescope’s prospects for success, I called Fred Lo, the director emeritus of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory and a participant in the early hunt for Sagittarius A*. He said that what Doeleman and his team are trying to do is difficult but not without precedent. During the Cold War, he said, American astronomers coordinated with their Soviet counterparts on very long baseline interferometry observations. The American scientists would stop in Washington, D.C., to calibrate their atomic clocks and receive security clearance and then fly to Moscow, atomic clock in tow. Doeleman and company have plenty of problems to solve, but crossing the Iron Curtain is not one of them. “This is the sort of thing this community has always done,” Lo said. “It will get done.”

1. Submillimeter Array; James Clerk Maxwell Telescope; Caltech Submillimeter Observatory Mauna Kea, Hawaii
2. Combined Array for Research in Millimeter-wave Astronomy Cedar Flat, California
3. Submillimeter Telescope Mt. Graham, Arizona
4. Atacama Large Millimeter Array; Atacama Submillimeter; Telescope Experiment; Atacama Pathfinder Experiment Chajnantor Plateau, Chile
5. Large Millimeter Telescope Sierra Negra, Mexico
6. South Pole Telescope South Pole, Antarctica
7. Plateau de Bure Interferometer Grenoble, France
8. IRAM 30-Meter Telescope Granada, Spain
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I've always found black holes amazing. The fact that gravity becomes so strong that not even light can escape it to be more exact. Even more amazing is the "singularity" proposed to be at it's center. If gravity is acceleration wouldn't the fact that light cannot escape be evidence of that light being accelerated past the speed of light. Perhaps describing it as a singularity is easier than explaining what happens when the cosmic speed limit is broken. Or maybe it isn't as hard as it seems?
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Black holes are the swiss cheese of the cosmos slowly turning itself outside in, to another cosmos! It not that we can not see the light leaving the black hole, but the light actually being redirected to another reality!
Oh not to forget. In the other cosmos, all the scientist are busy trying to prove that 'light matter' really does exist and is what most of the cosmos is made of, but no true light matter has been found as of yet.
Perhaps the light matter you refer to is actually dark matter and the other cosmos you refer to is really just hidden within our own.
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RnW,
You discovered my little topsy turvy inside out reality, lol. You win a cookie, take care. ;)
so help me understand this... If energy cannot dissappear, then doesnt that mean that the light has to go somewhere? Or does it stay in the black hole? sorry for the lack of knowledge, but asking is eventually knowing!!!
you know, i honestly believe science is like religion, everything is speculation, everything in science is a theory.
Technically, nothing ever reaches the singularity, or the center of the black hole. If the theory of black holes is correct, then as you get closer to the black hole, time slows down. Also note that the singularity is a single point in the center of the black hole, dimensionless (except for mass). So, as you get closer to the point, time slows down further, gravity pulls more, and as you fall even closer, time slows down more... So, when you reach the singularity, you theoretically should have spent an infinite amount of time to get there.
But onto the question:
"If energy cannot dissappear, then doesnt that mean that the light has to go somewhere?"
As stated above, the light can NEVER reach the singularity! That means it is always a certain height from the center, which we can call "h". When it is that distance away, the potential energy it has is -G(M*m)/h, which is
-6.67300*(10^-11)*(m^3)*(kg^-1)*(s^-2)*(M*m)/h. Though the gravitational constant is small, and the mass of a neutrino is also small, h gets closer and closer to zero as you approach the black hole, and eventually it becomes infinitely small, which means the potential energy becomes infinitely large...
Anyways, you get my point. The energy is still there, in a different form and *****TRAPPED IN TIME*****. So yea. That's my little spiel.
Sources: AP Physics BC, Research Project on Black Holes
Trapped in time. But what time? Isn't time its own dimension? One we pass through at a rate relative to our speed through space. Being trapped in time couldn't the energy(information) interact through gravity though hidden across time in a manner that only weakly interacts if at all with our own relative frame of reference?
On another note isn't a singularity with infinite potential energy what created our observable and unobservable universe?
If @ultraeric is correct, and one were to dive head first into a black hole, not doing the whirlpool style entrance, would you possibly speed up? Going around and around the black hole might cause the slowdown, even taking into account centrifugal. But diving straight down the wormhole, could all the gravity swirling around you force you to go faster, not slower?
And 10USMC75, science is only a religion if you let it be. DO you put your faith in the hard wire facts, or in what you think is true?
Religion is only a matter of perspective, as is the entire universe.
Robot, I actually have a theory that could prove the existence of other cosmos, just not as extravagant as you put it.
There is a theory out there that there was a primordial, primitive form of matter BEFORE the big bang, and that the big bang was nothing but a breaking point when all this matter accidentally accumulated. I have an adaptation to this.
I say that all the above was as it was, but the big bang simply drew in a hell of a lot of this proto-matter (work with me), becoming the first instance of gravity, a type of gravitational bomb.
Now if we say that the universe is eternal, and that this proto-matter is the same, then, theoretically, there could be an eternal number of these "micro-verses", or "nano-verses".
The larger the bang, the more of this proto-matter gets sucked in, so our cosmos might be a tiny one or a super-massive one.
Why can we not see these other verses? No idea. It might be because of some kind of dark matter shielding. It could be the same reason these verses don't collide and destroy everything. And why the verse is slowing down, we are hitting the barrier.
And I'm still in high school, just to blow all of your minds.
TeslasDisciple,
I have compresion and expansion components for fluctiions in atmospheric pressures. No worries, my componets of your news flash I am intact.
Its Ironic that a photon(light) does not have mass which is why they move freely across space and time unlike its other subatomic couterparts still gets trapped in blackhole which is said to be of possessing very high gravitational force(acts only on matters having mass).
AHAHAHHA! @TeslasDisciple, he believes in that pathetic big bang theory. Explain to me how an explosion could create life. So if I blow up your house, I will create new life?
@robot, I find your comment very humorous, the amps jumped a few times on the reader.
@TH3B34ST, Life did not evolve because of the big bang, life evolved in the chaos that was early Earth. The big bang simply made the canvas that life grew on.
@cosmicdust, that is why black holes are so d4mn cool!!!!
I have heard that Black holes sometimes throw out large beams of gamma after they have swalloed large quantity of matter. If that is the case, how come those gamma beams break the event horizon and not light?
If not light itself, which is a wave and a particle, can escape a black hole, why can gravitons (gravity)?
How about magentiscm, do black holes have a north and south pole?
Time is not independent of space. They are intertwined in this reality.
The origin of the big bang is unknown but current quantum theory states clearly one possibility: The nothingness we associate with the vacuum of space seethes with particles which appear and disappear continually. Their life is measured billionths/ trillionth/ or on a Planck scale of seconds. Quantum theory also states the randomness of these events eventually produce a mass creation of particles from this zero state into a big bang event.
Richard Feynman postulated and applied math as proof, the energy in the nothingness is very very very large.
Following that logic, our universe is only one of an infinite number of universes
This is poorly stated by a layman but the basics are consistent. Nor can I argue this point with any scientific underpinning as the math is beyond me.
Traveling into a black hole becomes an exercise in Zeno's Paradox. Time slows as velocity and or gravity increase. At the speed of light, time essentially stops and mass (gravity) approaches the infinite. So the particles never reach the singularity or so it is said.
Lastly Gamma radiation associated with black holes does not originate from within the event horizon but from the accretion disk circling the drain, so to speak. Thus no violation of the statement that nothing escapes a black hole.
So if mass goes to infinite at a point, wouldnt it implode in on itself?
I think time is cyclical. Time dilation from the extreme environment of a black hole not only slows time for all matter that passes the event horizon, but sends it back to the moment of the big bang, the beginning of all time. That is how the big bang happened all across the vast expanse of space in the void of the universe simultaneously, every singularity in the universe exploded all at once with the matter that enters every black hole in existence. Just a theory anyway :)
I think mass inside black holes already are imploded. The gravity is so strong that each atom is packed up at each other without any space in between them.
Stars implode on themselves when the explosive reactions inside dimminish slightly, because then the gravity force is stronger than the exanding force of the reaction. Greater the weight of the star, the greater the implosion; and the largest one create black holes.
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@Alotta Fagina
You just havent been here long enough... give it time.
To beleive in science you have to believe in theory,truthfuly nobody knows hardly anything because there is so much to lear,we are all young pups that aren't dumb or stupid we are all just ingorant.All of you might think you know sooooo much but really we all know hardly anything.
sorry for the spell mishaps
Guess everthing we know is wrong, ENJOY!
http://www.space.com/16867-black-holes-quantum-mechanics-theory.html
Please let me know your opinions! Thanks
To TeslasDisciple:universe is not a closed system .hence energy can be created and destroyed too.light is just a slice of electromagnetic spectrum and can be destroyed and created , created when electrons jump from higher energy states tolower energy states within an atom and destroyed when electrons are ionized and destroyed in a black hole situation or entering back into quantum vacuum . Even vacuum are creations of energy vibrations .
As far as "life" is concerned it is nothing but analogical to "information" ,(and not to electromagnetism) . both information and life-energy are continuous as energy waves and not discrete or digital as matter 'particles" or grainy like space-time fabric.For life-energy manifests in our four dimensional space-time manifold through matter just like light manifests through matter ( by processes like reflection,refraction,diffraction, polarization etc ).microbial life-forms ( carbon life forms and arsenic life forms etc) exist and survive almost everywhere in space that we have been able to explore even in the surface of the sun and in cold empty space on comets and viruses lie dormant in deep space itself.The origin of life is NOT earth or any primordial soup .Life has been there and everywhere more like "information" .the strength of this analogy is that even in black hole life could exist and survive since information is one thing which the black hole cannot destroy like any other matter or matter-energies . Leaking out gamma rays from black holes carry "information" and hence life too !. Like information ,life is the very fundamental essence and basic ingredient of the universe and NOT matter-based at all. Even space and time are creations of matter ,but not life and information. Got it ?
ultraeric seems to have captured the standard theory of black-hole singularities as I learned it, based on general relativity.
And kirbang seems to have carried reasoning further to its natural conclusion based on the quantum theory of spontaneous formation and disappearance of particles in "empty" space that I've heard of.
But what I find curious and puzzling is how a black-hole "singularity" forms and evolves. As matter coalesces before the singularity is formed, does the singularity suddenly come into existence in an instant? Or does the formation merely approach becoming a singularity over an infinite period of time but never actually achieves singularity in a finite time? Also if there is actually a singularity, does there have to be, in effect, matter "at" the singularity? Or does _all_ matter that has fallen through the even horizon merely approach the singularity for ever and ever?
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Also, it is often said that no information can come out of a black hole simply because nothing, not even light, can come out of through the event horizon.
But it seems to me that this statement is not true simply because the curvature of space outside of the even horizon is a measure of the amount of matter within the even horizon. So the measure of the curvature of space outside the event horizon tells you something about what is below the event horizon.
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Einstein was apparently very enamored with the idea that a single unified mathematical theory could describe the dynamic laws of the universe in their entirety with ultimate, _exact_ precision. That idea seems to be a metaphysical concept of the universe that can never be verified empirically. But conceivably it could motivate an improved theory of the universe.
On the other hand, I can imagine a personified physical universe saying, "Ha Ha Ha, you theoretical physicists are all a joke. You will never capture the true sense of my being. Your artificial invention of mathematics is simply too feeble to capture my true sense. All you can do is to approximate my behavior. There will always be exceptions of one sort or another to the so-called laws that you discover. In fact, it is impossible for you to ever know that you have captured my true sense, even if capturing my true sense were possible."
The void itself exists out of nothingness, maybe therefor a black hole maybe it's opposit existing out of matter. Those two might work together.
Think the edge of the universe is sourrounded by some sort op athmosphere...
I dont think you try and understand it as something really complicated but more like something that is build of and using extreme symplicity, extreme logic.
This based on imagination though but hey, thats what encircles the earth.
i think the way james dyson is going with his ever increasingly powerful suction on his dyson cleaners that before long he will invent the black hole again........
@teslasdisciple "And I'm still in high school, just to blow all of your minds."
I'm so impressed that as a teenager you can form your own complex ideas and theories about the world aroud you...oh wait, humans start doing that at ages much younger than yourself. The fact that you're so arrogant about your "knowledge" only emphasizes your immaturity.
You could try to be like ultraeric and put some actual science into your theories...that may help your cause.
If you can't tell, people who label themselves as "mind blowing" get on my nerves. haha
One question I have is, if light has no mass then how is it possible that it gets sucked into a black hole? How can gravity affect something that has no mass?
@nor-cal ninja, thats what i have asked for in my earlier comment, seems einstein contradicts his theory