Climate Scientists Request Protection From Somali Pirates

Well instead of singling out scientific research for safe guarding, we could kill the Somali Muslim Pirates and safeguard all of the sea goers in the area. Death is still a pretty good deterrent. Apparently the Russians still know what to do with pirates.

As a side note, 1000s of people are being starved in Somali.

First, I'm not sure why you felt it necessary to label them as Somali "Muslim" pirates, as their religion has little if anything to do with their piracy. Second, don't be so naive as to think that death would be an effective deterrent, as few times in history has it proven to be.

Pretty sure the ones the Russians handcuffed to their own boat and blew up are not going to be doing anymore pirating. As for the other item you mentioned, its a recurring theme. See if you can connect the dots.

We should be so lucky as to have all those idiotic climatologist abducted by the pirates. Make my day!

@DerivePi,

"we could kill the Somali Muslim Pirates and safeguard all of the sea goers in the area."

Yeah... killing all of the Afghani Muslim Terrorists worked wonders, so, I'm sure this is a solid plan.

Oh wait... I think you forgot about this human idea called vengeance.

They seem to have some realy big and powerful weapons. How are the getting these?

It took 8.6 sec for a burning person to fall to the ground from the 100th floor. This factoid wouldn't make sense if evil was dealt with properly the first time. What factoid are we going to learn this time if we don't seriously deal with evil this time?

@BubbaGump,

It's easy to find arms dealers and as long as you have the money you can buy powerfull weapons. At the beginning Somalia pirates where unemployed layoff soldiers. But when organized crime saw how easy it was to pirate ships and how it was a good source of money they invested in this business. And they have the money to buy powerfull weapons and fast boats.

Today pirating is not different from drug trafficking, it's ruled by organised crime.

@atomicant, thanks for the information.

@JohnStClair WOW yor are another fucking idiot who denies climate science.97.3% of climate scientists believe that climate change is caused by humans. Most people would automatically believe any scientist in almost any field about a subject if they had such major consensus on it. I mean this is there lifes work its not like they just look at somthing for a second and say HEY! the earth is going to heat up. The the the majority of scientists going against human caused climate changed are not climate scientists. I'm tired of ranting.

OOOPS MISTAKE yor and the the the

another great comment by JohnStClair

@andrewfink

Priceless post by an obvious no-brainer. Claiming/flaming that someone else is an idiot. ...then you correct (only) two mistakes in a second post, missing the several others. It is no wonder you believe the snake oil salesmen charlatans that call themselves 'climate scientists'. You apparently lack *any* reasoning skills.

JIMMYBIG please don't joke about that. I think that there's a church group forming to get this going right now!

Humanity @ it's best. The scientist against (boys who never had the change for an education)The rich against the extremely poor. Heee this piracy is exactly like on the internet with software/books/movies/audio/PORN. I dislike offering help to the science above hunger type of character. But didn't it come to mind that the scientists, could use the navies submarines to dump their equiptment on the site. Or maybe it's not that easy and they should just head there with guns, shoot the place up and dump their equiptment between the corpses of the pirates. The scientist could also take along whisky and women for the pirates, surely the last option would offer an solution. All jokes and possible solutions aside....

The scientists should pay the pirates tax. Because they are on their territory. No scientist should be on sea, while we got so many problem on land

Interesting that most other countries get to control their coastal waters
(e.g. US, GB, Canada, etc)
-but certainly not Somalia!
Instead take all the fish you want & dump trash in their waters.
If they try to stop you (or make you pay for it) then they are considered Pirates.
Hypocrisy, again, at its finest.

@pres68y - Hey, good argument. You should ask Scott and Jean Adam of California and Bob Riggle and Phyllis Macay from Seattle what they think of this hypocrisy.

@GodLikesComedy - Some of the starving poor flee the country and some take up piracy. We are not animals and our choices define us. If you really are concerned check out Doctors without Borders in the NE of Kenya. Wealth is not the enemy.

@DerivePi,

2,753 people died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

about 450,000 people have died since then in car crashes.

The U.S. has spent about $1.2 TRILLION since 2001 to avenge the 9/11 victims (and to randomly attack Iraq).

How much money has the U.S. spent on making cars safer? Or less likely to crash?

Do you think that maybe if we spent $1.2 TRILLION on autonomous vehicle research we'd have cars that drive themselves yet (and therefore also can avoid crashing better than humans)?

Guess what, flushing $1.2 TRILLION of tax-payers money down the Haliburton toilets brought exactly 0 of the victims of 9/11 back (in fact it's killed and injured thousands more).

Investing $1.2 TRILLION into something useful COULD HAVE prevented some of the 450,000 deaths that have happened since then due to car crashes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost-benefit_analysis

@B.V.

Irrelevant conclusion - spending more money on automobile research will not fix the Somali Muslim Pirate Problem (SMPP)

Straw man - I have never and will never argue that flushing money down toilets will bring people back to life. What's your experience?

couple other items:
1. your analysis does not allow for any further Muslim terrorist prevention benefits due to military action (acceleration, emboldening, etc...).
2. You make no distinction between self-inflicted accidents and intentional terrorism (maybe you don't think there should be?).
3. As is shown by the reduction in vehicular accidents since the 50s, there is a diminishing curve (same with terrorism in the US).
4. The real argument is whether it is cost effective to kill the Somali Muslim Pirates to provide for the overall public's safety or provide escort service to individual special interest groups.

It is not a straw-man argument if the "problem" is "amount of preventable deaths of U.S. citizens" instead of "somali 'muslim' pirates killing people".

This is the lowest common denominator since car crashes are preventable, and, according to you, terrorist attacks are also preventable.

So, for the problem of "amount of preventable deaths of U.S. citizens" then it would make the most sense to tackle the problems responsible for killing the most number of people first... and then work your way down the list to the problems responsible for the lowest number of people killed.

The number of people killed by shark attacks in the U.S. is smaller than the number of people killed by terrorists... but I'm not advocating that we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan and send our military on a mission of shark eradication (although probably more U.S. deaths are caused by sharks than by "the SMPP").

@BV...give it a rest, the only reason cars are safe at all is because the gov't forced car makers to make them safer, many researchers and the gov't are working towards smart cars and infrustructure to make driving safer, we have not made all the best decisions in our fight against terrorism so we should give up? the last i knew a car accident couldn't cause billions in damage to the world economy @John_Galt...you broke snake oil salesman out to describe scientists who have spent their whole lives studying this science and probably have Phd's, you are just another fuc#ing ingnorant troll

@drchuck1,

"the last i knew a car accident couldn't cause billions in damage to the world economy"

U.S. car accident cost: $164.2 billion PER YEAR.

Since 2001 car accidents have cost the U.S. economy $1.6 TRILLION.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/03/05/news/economy/AAA_study/

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"we have not made all the best decisions in our fight against terrorism so we should give up"

Well... we should probably STOP making the same moron decisions we have been making in the past... instead of wasting even more money getting rid of a problem that barely matters like pirates in Somalia.

Just level one of the villages, starting with the biggest one, for each ship attacked and the problem would be soon over.
It sounds to me like the problem is needed to offer half-ass solutions with considerations for those without any consideration.
It is time to stop feeling sorry for Africa. Dog-eat-dog world is for everyone, no exceptions!