Manipulate THIS.

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Selling does not affect the price. Many people have already shorten BULBS anyways. I assume, you have done it as well. As to "how hard/easy it would be to manipulate a stock," have not you seen numerous examples almost every day? It is relatively easy. I don't know whether people did it with multiple accounts or through coordinated efforts but that does not bother me. They obviously did on some occasions. Why would decent players do the same?

"Selling does not affect the price."
What??? That doesn't make sense. Are we speaking english?
Where did you hear that? Have you studied the formulas built into this game?

"have not you seen numerous examples almost every day?"
(I don't think so. but that's not my point)
Seeing someone else do it is just not as satisfying as doing it yourself.

"Why would decent players do the same?"
Cus the game is over. Over 90% of the props will not cashout. It's all downhill from here. What's the point of playing it straight? The game is dead. This is a chance to play with the game itself.
When a gizmo reaches the end of it's useful life. I like to see what i can learn by opening it up and taking it apart. (don't you?)
This will be fun, and educational.
Sitting back and watching HSX die a slow death is not fun.

Well, I am sorry, I cannot find it here now, but this is a quotation from Wikipedia on PPX: "...Of the four types of actions, Buy and Short affect the price of a stock, while Sell and Cover do not." I think that I saw something on teeh subject somewhere here as well but, as it turns out, I don't remember where it was and I cannot find it now.

The admins had covered this Buy and sell effect the price the most while sales and shorts effect the price they do not effect the price as much as a buy and sell.

actually sell and cover do affect the price of stocks, they do not however have as strong affect as buying and shorting. What this really translates into is say enough people buy a stock to move the price $1.00 to say $65 from $64 (however many people that may be), Then all those people sell their stock if the effect was the same the price should return to $64, but since itisn't it may be at $64.25 with another 5 people needing to sell to bring it down to $64.00. Now Yog (an ex administrator) is the one who confirmed the effect difference, and that sell/ cover had less an effect than buy/ short, but we have never figured out how much the difference is, and myself and others have speculated that there may be a formula involved that changes the number of traded stocks need to create a price change based on the value of the stock(but this has never been confirmed). This effect is best seen in BULBS and GOOGLE which both traded for over $100.00.

So... are we going to try this, or not?
I would like to see how low we can get this prop; just for the hell of it.
This might be the last fun thing we do...

You'd probably be able to get more movement on a low priced stock and try to raise the price because not many people have a spare $100,000

Good point.
How about BUY - CHROME
Currently at 7.75 will cost you $8,000
Then IF you have the extra cash, also short BULBS.

If you're already holding some of these, get rid of them sometime between now and fri.

Do you think we need to coordinate a specific time?

I think this is a great idea. We might as well have fun while the game is going to end.

I have a spare million that is just sitting around doing nothing.

We could shoot for a noon EST for moving the stocks or a little later for the west coast people.

CHROME is already going up. I don't understand what the pont of this experiment is. You'll never know how many people follow your instructions thus you'll never really know 'what it takes' to manipulate any stock. Pointless and just useless.

But it demonstrates a simple fact... that it isn't hard to manipulate this market.

And if you get a bunch of people acting in concert... without even making a public announcement about it... you'll get the wave riders piling on to make short term gains.

And that's why its pretty clear there's been a fair amount of manipulation going on. There were people moving in concert to MAKE props rise or fall contrary to all information, news, or sense. The prices swung farther when the lemmings joined in.

And when you have this happening, you eliminate the predictive value from the exchange.

So, now that you've proved my point... have a good life.

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Yes, yes, everything you say is true.
BUT, At this point there is NO predictive value.
(i doubt there ever was)
It's over, Sheldon.
You won.
They are turning it into a survey, just as you like it.
So lighten up. Be happy.

Celebrate with us.

Where is your sense of adventure??? Give it a go. Sell BULBS and buy CHROME. Assuming the offer was legitimate we should see some big movement.Nothing to loose and some thrill/knowledge to gain!!!

You all seem to be under the impression that manipulation is this hidden secret, its not. If people get together in mass and buy/ sell/ cover / or short movement will occur and the strength of the movement is proportional to the number of people buying which is the reinforced by the wave riders. No secret no mystery.Those pushing to "test this theory" just want to be an early adopter to a wave so they can make more money than later adopters.and the plan lacks finesse. If you want to make a statement and see how manipulation was done, start dummy accounts and start trying to push a couple stocks, and the watch the wave riders jump on. One person manipulating a couple stocks has way more finesse than a group of people doing it. You also have to take credit for the manipulation after the fact, and tell how many accounts were needed to start movement.

Thank you Sheldon.
You seem to be under the impression that you need to talk us out of it.
If you don't want to join in, don't.
Don't rain on our picnic.

"test this theory"
It is not an experiment, it is an experience.
Something new (to me) and (forbidden fruit) exciting.
Civil Disobedience - We are being naughty.

"You also have to take credit... "
(duh, ain't it obvious) Me, Me, Ban Me, Ban Me ! ! !
I have never manipulated a stock before.
That's why i'm so keen to do it now.

I am going out with a pop, not a whimper.

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Tomorrow Fri. 5/22, NOON est:
- BUY - CHROME
and if you have cash left - SHORT - BULBS

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TODAY -
Fri. 5/22, NOON est:
BUY - CHROME
and if you have cash left
- SHORT - BULBS

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NOW

Ok that wasn't as much fun as i'd hoped.
But i'm glad we tried it.

How did you like KNOL and CUIL? It seems that some other people are just doing these things without much advertising, does not it?