"This proposition will pay out at POP $100 if Honda begins leasing the FCX Clarity outside of Southern California by January 1, 2009."

I can see why this took a dive yesterday, with the news announcements how 200 of them will be leased in Southern California and Japan over the next three years.

Wait... Japan?

Oh, yeah, the Clarity is going to be leased in Japan in November of this year.

http://world.honda.com/news/2008/4080702FCX-Clarity/

Japan is pretty far outside of Southern California. Looks like a long to me...

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I haven't found anything in the news that would indicate Japan NOT getting the Clarity by the end of the year. Sure, it seems like there hasn't been much news on it recently but still has more than a month and a half.

And as vulgarian rightly points out, Japan is outside of southern cal.

So why the steep drop in the price?

What the hell. I thought that "outside of southern California" meant in northern CA or any other state, not another country!

What ever happened to "the spirit of the prop" agreement? It has since been replaced by getting technical.

The text of the proposal refers to "the country" which the context would indicate refers to US. If we are going to have lawyers interpreting the pay-out, we need to have lawyers writing the proposals.
I interpreted this proposal as referring to US leasing only!

so you interpret "outside of Southern California" to mean only within the U.S.? why?

not sure if you looked at a map recently but Japan is clearly outside of Southern California...

I think the "spirit of the prop" thing is being used as a "that's not the way I interpreted it" excuse. Sometimes it has merit. And then there's this time.

The phrase "the country" was a single isolated reference to the fact that few places have hydrogen fueling stations outside of Southern California. It was not in reference to the conditions of the payout.

There was nothing ambiguous or questionable about this prop. It was well-written and conformed to the SMART management principle (Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Relevant, Time-Bound) which, the more I think about it, would be great guidelines to use here.

Props like this are great because they're so damn easy to understand and resolve.If the introduction of a single word skews someone's understanding, that's largely the fault of that person.

Considering that this prop went live prior to the change in literally interpreting the payout, when the "spirit of the prop" was assumed including regarding the text as part of the payout criteria, the proposition implied that "outside southern California" meant somewhere else in the California or the US.

I don't think just one person interpreted this prop this way especially if it was traded when it first went live so many months ago.

However, now that the literal interpretation of the payout is the criteria, it would most certainly be clear what "outside southern CA" means.

"outside Southern California" means "somewhere other than Southern California" and does not in any way suggest it must be in the U.S. If you can't get your mind around that simple fact, you're going to have a hard time understanding lots of the props. Get used to the disappointment.

Actually, now that I reread this one, I can see why some are thinking U.S. only:

"That brings up the make-or-break question for hydrogen fuel-cell vehicles: Will the infrastructure expand so that this technology can spread further than driving distance of Hollywood?"

Since you can't drive to Japan, you could possibly assume it was a U.S. prop. And it says "the infrastructure". We don't refer to another country's infrastructure that way. That is meant for us.

On the other hand, I think the prop writer was showing his/her American pride. After all, who else would update their infrastructure? Oh yeah, how about the country that the car company is actually from? If the concern of the prop is that you won't be able to refill your car due to lack of filling stations, Japan is willing to give it a shot. And thereby bring the prop to a long close.


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