Residents of Portland, Oregon, voted down, yet again, an effort to add fluoride to their tap water.
With 80 percent of the expected ballots counted, Mayor Charlie Hales "conceded defeat," the Associated Press reported.
Portland is the largest U.S. city not to have added fluoride in the water, nor any plans to add it, the Associated Press reported. Portlanders in the past have defeated three other attempts to fluoridate their water since the 1950s, Livescience reported.
In the U.S., 196 million people have tap water that's fluoridated to the optimal level to prevent cavities, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Everyone else has either unfluoridated water or water that naturally or artificially contains fluoride at higher levels than recommended. Portland's water has naturally occurring fluoride, but not enough to make a difference to dental health.
Supporters say putting fluoride in the tap water gets the protective chemical to low-income children who might not have access to regular dentist visits. Opponents say fluoride will harm the environment, may have ill human health effects and constitutes medicating people without their consent.
The ongoing debate reshuffles the usual political alliances in Portland, the Oregonian reported. Slate reported on the groups on either side. Major medical and scientific organizations support tap water fluoridation as a safe way of preventing cavities. Opposing groups are more varied, including the Sierra Club, libertarian groups and even the local chapter of the NAACP. Anti-fluoridation lobbying is generally homegrown, Slate reported, and has received far less funding than proponents they defeated.
Curious about the studies both sides have brought up to support their positions? Livescience's reporting slants toward generally anti-fluoride studies, while Slate underlines those studies' weaknesses.
I was ecstatic earlier this year when they(city council) finally voted to have fluoride removed from our water supply here in Windsor Ontario. Not only is it unregulated forced medication of a whole population, it's not even naturally occurring fluoride they add to the tap water...search hydrofluorosilicic acid.
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
I'd like to see their autism rates compared to other cities cross referenced with the increase of autism after the switch to fertilizer run off scrubbed to be classified as fluoride.
In its 60+ year history, the majority of U.S. communities that have had an opportunity to vote on the measure have rejected it. Communities that have rejected water fluoridation: (large) List: www.fluoridealert.org/content/communities_2010/
“The fact that nearly 3 out of every 5 communities which vote on the issue have rejected fluoridation, year after year, does in all likelihood represent a collective judgment on the part of the public that, when all things are considered, fluoridation is not an acceptable public health measure.” –Edward Groth, PhD
“A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it a superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable outcry in defense of custom.” —Thomas Paine
“A truth’s initial commotion is directly proportional to how deeply the lie was believed. It wasn’t the world being round that agitated people, but that the world wasn’t flat. When a well packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.” –Donald James
“In science it often happens that scientists say, ‘You know that’s a really good argument; my position is mistaken,’ and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn’t happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time something like that happened in politics or religion.” ―Carl Sagan
“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” –Carl Sagan
"I had no fixed opinion on whether or not fluoride should be added to drinking water... Slowly, I came to the conclusion that there were strong experimental and clinical indications that fluorides present health hazards to people in many ways. The more I learned, the more I became convinced that the addition of fluorides to drinking water was, and is, a mistake."
-- Dr. Robert L. Isaacson, co-author of the National Academy of
Sciences, National Research Council, "Fluoride in Drinking Water"
report, A Scientific Review of EPA's Standards, Publication Year: 2006 www.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=11571
“In my opinion, the evidence that fluoridation is more harmful than beneficial is now overwhelming.” -- Dr. Hardy Limeback, DDS, "Fluoride in Drinking Water" co-author
"Elimination of community water fluoridation at the earliest possible date would be in the best interest of public health." -- Dr. Kathleen Thiessen, "Fluoride in Drinking Water" co-author
Review of the 2006 United States National Research Council Report: "Fluoride in Drinking Water" www.fluorideresearch.org/393/files/FJ2006_v39_n3_p163-172.pdf Review by Robert J. Carton, PhD
As a retired Scientist, I have to ask; what are you folks doing reading a Science site when you have no understanding of Science but seem consumed by paranoia and fear?
ORIGINquest - " it's not even naturally occurring fluoride they add to the tap water." A classic error, 'natural' Fluoride? It's an element, how can you make it unnatural? (You do realise that wholesome organic foods are 100% chemicals?)
bgdavison - I love it! Dr. Strangelove?
They vote YEA to have their pot long ago.
They vote NO to fluoride.
Well, it is a democratic process. One would
think normally that is a good idea.
Shile some of may have different opinions,
they do have their rights.
Overdosing the entire population to treat a few is a stupid plan. Reminds me of the movie Equilibrium.
If you didn't trust your doctor would you take the meds he gave you or see another doctor?
And it has nothing to do with trusting medicine, its the doctor prescribing the meds you don't trust.
To those individuals who do not have an opinion on water fluoridation, or who may be under the impression that water fluoridation is a good thing, i offer you the following FACTS:
- No government funded studies have ever been conducted on the toxicological affects of the human consumption of water fluoridated with Hydrofluorosilic Acid. What has been studied, is the consumption of water fluoridated with Calcium Fluoride, and sodium fluoride, these are the naturally occurring versions of "fluoride" in our lakes and streams. But neither of these minerals are what they use to fluoridate water! So when you hear that "fluoride is naturally occurring in the water anyway, so how could it be bad for you?" Then you know these statements are a total crock of misleading shit, because Hydrofluorosilic acid is neither sodium fluoride, or calcium fluoride, and it certainly is NOT naturally occurring!
- Hydrofluorosilicic Acid is the stuff used to "fluoridate your water". It is not "manufactured", it is in fact a toxic wast by-product that comes from chemical wet scrubbers in smoke stacks from the Phosphate fertilizer manufacturing plants. Fluoride is only part of what is contained in this liquid slurry.
- hydrofluorosilicic acid also contains Arsenic, lead, mercury, and any other chemicals that happen to be captured by the above mentioned chemical wet scrubbers in those smoke stacks. This chemical slurry is what they label "hydrofluorosilicic acid". It is not further processed, or refined to anything remotely resembling pharmaceutical grade ingredients that are fit for human consumption.
- hydrofluorosilicic acid just so happens to have a part of it that contains "Fluoride". But that does not negate the fact that it contains about 100 other trace chemicals and poisons in it. Despite this fact, when governments talk about it, or advertise it, or even do studies on it, they always mention "fluoride" despite the fact that "fluoride" is only one part of what they are adding, and they always conveniently leave out any mention of all the other toxic shit. So why is it ok to not openly disclose this info to the public?
If i gave you a clean glass of water, then i treated it with a mixture that contained 3 parts fluoride and 2 parts dog shit, and 1 part urine, and i called it a "fluoride treatment" that is good for you, would you drink this? Does it become ok to drink this if i don't disclose the fact that it contains dog shit, and urine in addition to "fluoride"?
- Fluoridation of a municipalities water supply is in fact mass medicating the public with a drug without their informed consent! This is absolutely wrong! Any doctor caught doing this to a patient would be jailed and have his licence taken away. Any individual spiking someones drink with something without their knowledge would also be jailed. So why the hell is it accepted practice with water fluoridation when governments do it to entire city populations?
Definition of a Drug - A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication
Fluoridation is intended to treat and prevent dental carries (Tooth decay and cavities).
Definition of Informed Consent - Consent by a patient to a surgical or medical procedure or participation in a clinical study after achieving an understanding of the relevant medical facts and the risks involved.
When did you ever hear the word Hydrofluorosilic Acid in the same breath or sentence as fluoride when it is promoted to the public by our governments, or health agencies? Never! I bet this is the first time many of you readers have even heard that name hydrofluorosilic acid!
So why would their be such a push to add "fluoride" to the water anyway?
The answer, money, and lot's of it! Hydrofluorosilic Acid is in such abundance that it would cost billions of dollars to safely neutralize and dispose of this chemical and that would be horrible for these industries that produce it. You see, dumping this chemical in our lakes is illegal, it is also illegal to dump it in our landfills or anywhere else in our environment.
So what eventually ended up happening in the 40's is they made a correlation to show a decrease in dental cavities in populations where fluoride occurred naturally in the water in higher concentrations, and they started the "water fluoridation campaign" based on this bogus "science". After this, they were now able to use this Hydrofluorosilic acid, which contained some fluoride in it, and sell it as a "product" to municipalities. Now instead of costing them billions to dispose of it, it is now making them money, and lot's of it!
Any time money and governments are involved, you will have lies and corruption! Hence today's water fluoridation campaigns is about nothing more then finding a way to dispose of hydrofluorosilic acid through the various legal loopholes in our society!
When you hear of cities like Portland that have voted against water fluoridation year after year, you have to ask yourself the following. If the general consensus is that our public does not want this in their water, why they hell does the issue keep getting raised? And why the hell our the governments so keen on pushing it? Someone somewhere is getting paid allot of money to keep pushing this stuff to the public.
Lastly, go youtube documentary "The Great Culling Our Water". If you actually watch this documentary and walk away thinking that fluoridation is legitimate, and good for you, well what can i say. You have been so dammed brain washed to believe whatever the government tells you, and there is no hope for you. So drink up, enjoy, and help them dispose of their toxic waste!
Studies have proven that drinking fluoride does NOT help in reducing cavities. In fact, areas that have fluoridated water, children have a higher rate of cavities vs those children that do not drink the ACID DERIVATIVE - fluoride. Half a tube of small tooth paste with fluoride can kill a child under 3 (same thing that is in rat poison). In the first 10 years of fluoride use, there were so many law suits that our government past laws that you can no longer sue the fluoride industry. If it is so safe and so good for you, then why the need to protect them? Studies out of Chine, Europe, and Harvard (in the US) is linking fluoride to ADHD, Dementia, Alzheimer, lower IQs, and several other ailments reported in mass around the world (in nations that still fluoridate). There has been NO study that has been proven that ingesting fluoride protects your teeth. Sorry, not there! This is forced medication to where you have NO CHOICE in the matter and is WRONG! Popsci should be ashamed of itself for not researching and writing a neutral article to where the public can get both sides and make up their own mind.